LSU Student Planning to Burn American Flag in "Peaceful Protest"

Or as a civilized and free society we should just let people express themselves however they want, providing it isn't yelling fire in a theatre.

 

DARNIT MAN!!!! I'm not saying make it illegal to...I'm not saying that they don't have a right to...I'M SAYING that as a matter of courtesy to others that we should agree WE SHOULDN’T!!! Not ONE person that shares my view point in this thread has said something different.

Some acts are just disrespectful and WRONG (I'm talking ethicality or morally not legally wrong)

I swear...I'm going to rename you two BrickwallSupa and Martin the Hard Head. :yelwink2:

 

Or false advertisement, or hate speech, or obscene acts, or fighting words, etc....

 

That doesn't make sense. You are saying we should have rights, but we should only use them to talk about how awesome puppies are. I can't control how someone reacts to my speech. Only the person who feels disrespected can define what is disrespectful in their eyes. Using your standard no one would be able to say anything ever.

 

Maybe I can clear it up for you...

No, I'm saying we do have rights. This discussion has been on our right of free speech...which is the right to express ourselves without government suppression or censorship, however not all speech is protected.

Not at all, if you do not like taxes speak up. If you think that the folks representing you are not doing a good job, speak up. If do not like puppies...say so.

However, in case you didn't know, hate speech, not protected. Obscenity...not protected. Fighting...not protected. Therefore, if you want to go on a rant about how much you hate Jews, you should hold back. Not that you hate Jews.

That's right.

Hmmm...no not really.

While it is true that some may find an act disrespectful and others may see it as fine…I guarantee you that the majority of Americans find it disrespectful to burn the flag. Hence why a 1,000 peeps showed up in a counter protest.

If Hass would of chosen a less abrasive act to express his view…let’s say stand there in handcuffs preaching while his hot blond friend was dressed as the statue of liberty with tears coming out of her eyes (see she would be sad because their friends liberties, in their opinion, were being suppressed) then he would have been able to have his say and maybe some peeps would of heard it .

Like burning, the flag there are other things that are disrespectful that we observe out of respect. For example, while in Middle East, one must use his left hand (I think it is the left) to greet people because the right is unclean (it is used for eating and wiping). US soldiers while talking to locals observe this custom out of respect...all I'm saying if we do things out of respect for other cultures...shouldn't we do the same for our own?

Where the FREAK is this coming from???? Did I say he was wrong for protesting..not at all...never said. I said his stance was stupid...and it was. I said burning the flag was disrespectful...and to the majority of Americans...it is.

It is A LOT easier to get your message across to another if you do it in a way that is not offensive.

I’m not saying don’t go and protest abortion clinics…I’m saying don’t scream at the girls and call them whores as they walk in. I’m not saying never challenge your government…I’m saying let’s not desecrate the flag while doing so. I encourage free speech…it is the ABUSE of that right that I am against.

 

Not at all, if you do not like taxes speak up. If you think that the folks representing you are not doing a good job, speak up. If do not like puppies...say so. [/QUOTE]

But only say it in a respectful way? How should I go about doing this? Should I poll everyone who may see or hear me and make sure what I am doing is not offensive? What percentage of offense is too high? Do I just need a simple majority to not be offended in order to express myself in a respectful manner, or do I need to be completely not offensive?

Pretty sure flag burning has stood up to challenges on all these fronts and is considered an act of civil disobedience.

This is not an accurate representation of precedent.

The reason we have freedom of speech is to protect the speech we find offensive. The stuff everyone is ok with does not need to be protected. And again we are a society of individuals, and the freedom of speech is an individual right. Collective herd mentality does not apply. I can't control how 1000 different people will react to my message. Even if they all find despicable that really is their problem. They should have just not listened to me. The right to not be offended or disrespected does not exist.

The way that nut wants to express himself is his business. That is pretty much the point. He can say the what he wants to say in the manner he wants to say it.

Our culture is one of freedom. When you exercise your rights you are showing the ultimate sign of respect for our culture.

For to express oneself with the doing of a thing is the very essence of freedom.

And you also said that we should exercise in a respectful manner. Since I can never know what other individuals will find offensive I can never say anything. This is a true story I had a professor get accused of sexual harassment by a student because he said she had a pretty skirt. He was barred from getting a department chair because of the fall out. He said something reasonable and lost out big time because someone else didn't like it. If what others find respectful is our gauge for what we should say, then no one can say anything.

What you have defined as abuse of the right is exercise of it.

 

Dude...you don't get....you're not trying to get...you won't ever get it...you are obviously just arguing to argue at this point and you just keep posting the same old bullschite so you can get the last post in....so for now on in celebration of the Audubon Bridge opening I'm just going to post a name of a bird in response to all your future post.


Childish...I know...but fun.

 

It's pretty simple to me. The same people that would burn the American flag would call soilders returning home babykillers. They would march in the streets chanting Marxist slogans. They would go on tirades denouncing our free enterprise system while screaming about worker's rights. They wouldn't stand for the national anthem or put their hand over their heart for the pledge. Hell , they wouldn't say the pledge to begin with. They would rather put an entire industry out of business to save a frog. They're all the same. They have the right to do it. This is why I vote like I do. It's my way of protesting what these people do just as they protest by burning the flag.

 

A dude on another site had this to say..

 

Texas Radio Host on the topic...starts talking about it around the 23:40 mark. About 18:45 he talks to a caller about it...

Michael Berry 05/12 5 PM-6 PM - NewsRadio 740 - KTRH

I've never heard of this guy...any of you Texas peeps listen to him. Not really my cup of tea.