LSU Student Planning to Burn American Flag in "Peaceful Protest"

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  1. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    The speech said nothing about the troops,the whole ordeal had nothing to do with them or the war. Here is a copy of the speech ...

    "Funny Facebook said that there were only going to be 64 of you. I initially began this flag burning protest to define due process for students and suspected terrorists alike, to call on LSU and universities across the country to defend basic human rights and avoid putting students into the criminal justice system when it can be taken care of internally.

    Solidarity means standing with those who are treated as guilty until proven innocent, instead of the other way around. That's what freedom is, standing with those who express their constitutional rights in ways that may be unpopular, especially the accused and the marginalized no matter the consequences.

    In the name of peace, there will be no flag burning today. This country and the flag that flies over it stands for freedom, democracy, love, peace and the ability to question our government."

    - Benjamin Haas, communication studies graduate student

    Doubt it…Rumors are almost NEVER true.

    Appropriate charge would be simple battery for what it is worth.
     
  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I get it. Kinda like having Obama as President.
     
  3. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    The part of the speech to "avoid putting students into the criminal justice system when it can be taken care of internally" doesn't seem to make much sense. Wasn't it true that the original flag burner stole the flag, vandalized other stuff, and had a stolen car? That should equate to being put in the criminal justice system.
     
  4. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    He allegedly stole the university flag (theft) and in the process cut the special cord that the flag was on (Criminal destruction of property) and attempted to burn the flag (simple arson) and then fled the scene leaving behind a car that he allegedly stole (theft), which contained narcotics (possession of a controlled substance) and before all of this he allegedly spray painted graffiti on the wall of his apartment building (vandalism).


    I suppose that Hass' reasoning is that since the little terd was a LSU student, and the flag theft/burning took place on the campus, the matter should of been taken care of internally. Hass' was either (1) grossly misinformed (2) he lives in his own little world and see things not as they are but how he wants to see them or (3) has no understanding how our legal system works. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted to get in the news.


    To be honest with you I would LOVE for him to come post here and explain to me why he felt it was necessary to hold the little protest.
     
  5. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    When I was in elementary school, we said the pledge every morning. One of my teachers made a big deal of how we should put our hand over our hearts for the pledge but often reminded us that we SHOULD NOT put our hand over our hearts for the Star Spangled Banner. She mentioned that many "grown ups" didn't understand the correct handling of the national anthem.

    Although I don't think I've heard the pledge recited in many years, I've always adhered to this advice for the Star Spangled Banner (until recently). With virtually everyone at sporting events putting their hand over their hearts, I've finally started following the crowd rather than continue to follow the advice from my teacher. Was my teacher correct?
     
  6. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    from the U.S. flag code....



    United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10
     
  7. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    Looks like she was wrong...

    TITLE 36 > Subtitle I > Part A > CHAPTER 3 > § 301
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    § 301. National anthem


    (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.


    (b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—

    (1) when the flag is displayed—


    (A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;


    (B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and


    (C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and



    (2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.


    United States Code: Title 36,301. National anthem | LII / Legal Information Institute

    ETA: Damn Okie is quick :D
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the proper policy is to do whatever you want
     
  9. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    If by proper you mean a policy that is not writing and was made up by people who want to do their own thing…then yes.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    of course that is what i mean. we are not nazis, dude, we are free individuals. we should act like it, and not repeat weird creeds and **** like a bunch of creepy freaks.

    teach kids this weird crap and the next thing you know they are on the parade grounds throwing crap and screaming obscenities because some idiotic jew is trying to bore everyone to tears.

    like rush limbaugh always says, we as a society care too much about symbolism and not enough about substance.
     

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