"LSU - which I like to call 'Alabama Light'"

I think it is Saban writing under a pseudonym.

 

The writer is an idiot. What standoutish achievements does he want? A 2005 katrina Tigers that were the first EVER to beat Bama, Auburn and Florida in the same season. Something Saban never did with much better situations (Katrina, sophomore unexperienced QB,..). 2back to back 11 win seasons, first EVER in LSU history. Also something Saban never did. 2 back to back bowl blowouts against College football's most storied programs, something Saban never did. Just because Saban won a NC doesnt mean he's the best ever. Miles was inches close to getting there in 2005 (going to the SECCG ranked #2 in the nation) and had arguably the best team by the end of 2006. Wake up Mr. writer.

 

I do not discount anything you say. I tell LSU fans (here in S'port) who constantly bash Miles about every little thing that y'all have a good coach so stop bitching.

But you know as well as I do that in the world of sports (whether you're a player, coach or team) you are ultimately judged on championships (conference and national titles). A lot of teams, players and coaches win a lot of games, have excellent seasons but only a few win championships (conference and national). Like it or not Saban put the trophies in the trophy case while at LSU. I know that since he's now with Bama many LSU fans are now attempting to "water down" the accomplishments of the two SEC titles and the MNC. But two SEC titles and a MNC is damn impressive no matter how you spin it. Especially in a five year time span.

Miles is a good coach but he will be treated no different than how past players, coaches or teams have been treated. Until he takes that great talent that is sitting down in Baton Rouge and puts a championship on the mantle he will be subject to scrutiny and second guessing. It has been and will continue to be the nature of the beast.

 

Alabama has more MNCs and SEC Championships in football than does LSU. If that's what the writer meant by "Alabama Lite", then, I guess that I understand what he's trying to say.

It seems to me that the writer is trying to do two things:

1) ingratiate himself to Bama fans like the ass-kisser that he is
2) insult LSU.

I don't tolerate LSU-bashers, nor do I support them by reading the garbage that they call their "work product."

The writer's work deserves no more thought nor comment.

I would like to request something of the group: could we make require ANY article like that one which bashes LSU to be placed in the Smack Talk forum? I'd like to be able to read threads in the main forum without being annoyed by LSU bashers.

 

That's a great idea. Because then they would be easy to find after we beat them in the fall.

 

(1) You've missed the point. This has nothing to do with Nick Saban vs Les Miles. EVERY coach, EVERY player and EVERY team's "greatness" or place in history is judged off of championships. Don't even include slinky in the equation when talking about Miles. For Miles to be mentioned in terms of "great coach" he's going to have to win a championship which will probably mean he'll win a SEC Title as well. Like I said before a lot of coaches have had very good seasons or even two or three in a row. Teams have had good regular season records and players have had good statistical careers but more times than not for them to be considered a "great" coach, team or player there better be a championship ring attached to it. Look no further than Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts and Coach Dungy. Before they won the SB Manning was beginning to be labeled a "choker" and couldn't win the big game. The Colts were beginning to be viewed as "soft" and Dungy was beginning to be viewed in the same light as Manning. They won the title and that is now erased.

(2) Then you need to read your own message board over the past few months. Especially during recruiting time. MANY tiger fans boast the fact that LSU only gets the best. To me that equates to great talent. It's not a myth. LSU over the past two to three years has been one of the most talented teams in the country. YOU might not agree but you're definitely in the minority. Y'all have had great talent and continue to bring it in.

Y'all just need some of those players with the striped shirts when playing Aw-Barn.

 

Agreed, but Nick got lucky to play for 2 of his.

Both you & Red are right on this one. LSU has been one of the most talented teams in the country the past couple years, but so have the other top SEC teams like Florida & Georgia.

 

I didn't hear the words "got lucky" after the NC season when Saban was still the coach nor when he became the Miami coach. But now that he's the Bama coach those accomplishments were "luck".

In saying that then you're also saying LSU got lucky and you're watering down LSU's NC because of one hated former coach.

I don't believe that one bit. That championship was earned and deserved. The players did what it took to get the job done when given the opportunity and the coaches (and that includes Saban) did what it took to prepare the players to get the job done when given the opportunity. Like Saban or not, he's a good FOOTBALL coach. He won't change water into wine, heal the sick, walk on water or raise the dead but he knows what it takes to prepare players/teams to win football games.

Now Nick might argue with you about the walking on water trick though. He "kind of" thinks highly of his abilities. :rofl: