Just look to see which conference produces more NFL talent than any other. Debate over. BCS Conference vs. BCS Conference is irrelevant. I'm curious to see what the top 25 matchup records are. You're only the best when you beat the best.
That was my initial reaction, too. Why does Maisel suddenly use the competition between BCS conferences as the measuring stick of conference strength? Seems to me it'd be more important to measure the conference strength against who they play, and who they beat and don't beat.
If that's the litmus test then Miami is better than most the conferences put together. A few years ago they had 7 or 8 guys in the first round! You can't just look at NFL products. I'm very disappointed in the SEC's out of conference record. Didn't think it was that bad. At least LSU is over .500. Good job UGA.
MLUTiger, O.K. ... fortunately ESPN.com goes back four years and lists where the teams the SEC played were ranked at the time you played them. To find this, you can go to espn.com, college football, teams, find the SEC, then click on schedules, you can click on any year back to the 2002 season. Against ranked teams (not in your conference) over that period, the SEC is 17-24. Bama 1-2 Ark 2-3 Aub 2-3 Fl 2-6 Geor 5-1 KY 0-2 LSU 3-3 Miss 1-0 Tenn 1-3 Vandy 0-1 Miss St and South Carolina have not played OOC ranked teams. So I don't know how many ways to carve this turkey so you can get the slice you want. I have a suggestion, though. Quit ordering the "Roast duck with the mango salsa" in restaurants. It's a dead give away.
That may be, but nonetheless, I must ask what conferences have a better record under the same criteria. Not that I think the SEC has the best record, I'm just curious to see. On the surface, 17-24 looks bad. But let's put it in context. Doesn't look so bad if the ACC is 2-29.
Per a Google Answers thread dated July 2004 naming the top 40 college programs according to how many players they put in the NFL, SEC (234), ACC (143), Big 12 (141), Big 10 (166), PAC 10 (154) and the Big East (55). Granted it's 2004 numbers, but the SEC wins by a mile... scratch that. Make it two miles. BTW, in the ACC, even though it was 2004, I gave the ACC Miami and Va Tech. UGA puts just as many people in the NFL as Miami. U of M gets the attention because they have been putting them all in the first round. Congrats! You're a prick! I'm not really sure why you think you're insulting me when I asked for the information and made no declaration either way. I have no problem with the truth viewed without my purple and gold glasses. Thanks for the work you did getting all of that info together. ESPN loads slow for my tastes so I feel for you getting all of that together. I may be a caveman, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...
what these stats fail to indicate in these ooc h2h matchups is which bowl games were included. how many jan2-jan3 bowls (the top tier) did the sec compete in which means better opposition as opposed to other conference say the big 12? who cares if the big 12 had the best record when obviously outside of UT beating USuCk, I remember TTech losing to an ok bama team. their next best was what? Iowa St losing to tcu? all bowls prior to and including that are pretty meaningless where the better teams dont care to be there anyhow. but i guess kansas beating houston matters. id like to see h2h matchups in only bowls that teams wanted to be there.