I can stop the movie. I can't stop the students. Just looked up your profile. I see your age and IQ are the same. I laugh at the "go to hell Ole Miss" and the "tiger bait". When the Tiger band plays and the students yell a** ****, I don't even hear it. I never sit close to the band. And TRADITIONS don't start every decade...............Maybe habits do. And you wonder why so many in the SEC think poorly of LSU fans. I love them myself. But I'm an a** **** already.:rofl: :rofl: I am sixty years old. With the time I have left, even a** ****s like you will not change my mind. I love my Rebs and Tigers. I had rather party with the "good" tiger fan than the "good" Rebel fan. Just better people. Less "class" conscience. As far as this thread is concerned, I say let them holler A** ****. JUST PLAY THE DAMN MUSIC. If your student body can't understand that they represent LSU as much as the players, then the quality of LSU education is not on the pedistal I thought it was. If you are close enough to offend me, you will know it. I may be too old to whip your ass, but I'm not too old to find a game marshall.:geauxtige :geauxtige
In this thread alone the word @sshole in some shape or form has appeared 28 Times even by y'all that find it so offensive. If you want to look at this from a rights point of view fine. Like I said before "No One has the right to not be offended" what we do have is the right to free speech. And this may not be a serious infringement of that right BUT.. There is a line in the sand that represents our freedoms, and everytime we cross that line for any reason small or big that line fades alittle. And one day we might wake up and that line is gone and the ability to even post this openly in a forum will no longer exist. If you want to look at this from a respect point of view fine. The students are chanting @sshole to the opps fans, so I say everyone that tailgates next week take a survey of the Zona fans you see walking around and ask them if they find it disrepectful. If you want to look at this from a point of the childern present fine. If you lack the inablilty to explain to your childern that this word is not something you should say in public OR in the really world there is a time and a place for everything, then you need to pick up a book and learn how to do so. Or better yet why not ask your kids what they think that word means, if they are LSU fans like my kids are they think it means any team LSU is playing. And finally if you want to look at this from a point of view of being a SoapBox issue fine. If LSU was still in the dark days of football, that ANY FAN before the 03 season knows about, this would not be an issue. But because LSu is now in the media spot light from the success of the football team and the hurricanes of last year. People are using LSU to farther their causes and beliefs. Last year it was the purple and gold rebel flags, this year it is a naughty word. Next year it might be the drinking on campus during tailgating. Once you allow something to be taken AWAY, it makes it easier for them to take other things away.
Not true there are local laws about profanity in public, depending on where you live. You should research this more. By your reasoning, we should just go ahead and put Pornography on billboards since it is legal in some states, who cares who it offends? the ACLU would be proud of you. :thumb: You're right, a punch would be assualt, no doubt about it. You must also realize that there are Laws about speech. As a group, you'd be arrested if you went to a political rally and started cussing or using profanity. it might not carry as large a penalty as assualt, but next time you feel spunky, try it and see. There is a happy medium there somewhere, Crip Where a person can express his ideas and not offend people. It's one thing to be so politically correct that you "worry" about offending every single person, this is a goal that isn't realistic. But that is why we have a "majority" rules society. We may not be able to keep from offending EVERYBODY, but we can reach a level in social behavior ( and legislate it ) that is reasonable and acceptable to most. Your level of acceptance may include public profanity. BUT not everyone's does. the University is simply reflecting THAT group, which is probably a much larger group than the student body, that does not find it acceptable. If you think it can't be enforced, send the ACLU your donation because that's about all you can do, that or speak out agaisnt it. You can bank on the fact that whether YOU like it or not it can be legislated and enforced, if the MAJORITY or People in Power wish it so. Freedom of speech is great but it has limits just like everything else. Speech can cause revolutions, which can be good or bad depending on your political beliefs. Consider this, from James cptr 3 vrs 3. When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. Now regardless of your religious convictions abut the Bible, you can see the point. You have the freedom to curse, ridicule and make fun of your government, President, etc.. BUT should you decide to start speaking publicly , advocating revolution or assisination, you might be allowed to continue, but you can rest assured it wouldn't be long before you were on a couple of lists like the FBI or Secret Service. At some point you'd be arrested, if you didn't have all your "ducks" in a row. Permits, rights to assemble, etc.. Some places simply would not grant you the right to obtain the permit, etc.. it would be a tough row to hoe no doubt. I know this is an extreme example but I wanted you to see that "Freedom of Speech" in reality only extends as far as what the general population will tolerate. Generally, the limit is where it is determined that you have infringed on another's or a large group of citizen's rights. Like my domestic tranquility... LOL Once you go beyond that limit, you may be heralding your cause to a cell mate. Sorry but we can't all have our way man, what you are advocating is NOT what everyone wants, it's what YOU believe. While many may agree with you, it is apparent the majority does not. I am not so naive to think that all MY ideas are the majority's. That's why we vote. Indeed, your concern over being "too concerned" about political correctness is one I applaud, but even THAt has it's limits. Going to the opposite extreme is just as bad. I'm not for censorship, generally. I am for freedom of speech. This freedom given you should in no way infringe upon what the Majority considers appropriate. For though you may allude to a higher cause, freedom of all speech, in reality, the majority sets these limits. The way you push the freedom of speech issue is much the same as the ACLU's stance which is ridiculous. It just doesn't reflect what the majority accepts, right or wrong. BTW: You get an "F" for the day in Political Science. :yelwink2: You can make it up though, there's a test Friday, just study more. :thumb:
He might. But if he made a habit out of it, I bet his promotions would cease or happen less frequently. I may be wrong, but I doubt it. Why don't you try it and see? let us know how that works out for ya. :yelwink2:
Did you really think about everything you just wrote. The reason we have our freedoms is that if ever the time comes that OUR government no longer rules they way it is suppose to, that it is our rights and freedoms and responiblity to stand up and overthrow it. And replace it with a government that is what it should be. And while I agree with you that one extreme or the other is not a good place to be. Do you REALLY consider the chat of @sshole 8 times during a 3 hour period which happens one day a week for 12 weeks out of the year AN EXTREME? As far as the other part of your statement if you have driven thorugh florida going to Gainsville there are PLENTY of billboards for the Strip clubs, hell there is one on I10 going into Baton Rouge, and dont get me started on Vegas. The ACLU can kiss my ass because they are nothing more than a group trying to farther its own cause for money and power. They like many groups including our government parties have forgetten what it means to serve the people. Like I said give people the power and the means to take something away and IT WILL NOT STOP
Ok lets figure this out here. The word is chanted 8 times during the song. We have 8 home games. So that would be the word @sshole being said 64 times. How many @ssholes or other naughty words do you say in any 8 week time frame?
How are we hurting the schools rep? We've been chanting azzholes azzholes ever since I've been in the student section (and years before my college life). Since then I've read countless numbers of articles showering LSU with greatness when they describe our atmosphere. So in my opinion, the chants are doing nothing to "damage the schools rep." How can you stop the movie? Sure you can choose not to go see the movie. Just like you can choose to not see LSU play football. This comment proves that with age....maturity is never a given. You disagree with my stance so you attack my age and intelligence? Truth be told, I'm a scholarship student (not just TOPS) with a higher GPA than many. And I was in the New Orleans program for gifted and talented students throughout elemenary school and high school (measures IQ). So please check the facts before you make false assumptions about people you disagree with. such a hypocrite damn, have we resorted to name calling? See, the student section is not calling out anyone is particular when we chant a** h****.....you my friend have fallen to a lower level.... Sure send them all over to the North end. Prepare to be laughed at. Stength in numbers.....no game marshall in their right mind would escort students out of the student section for using profanity. Last Saturday we were sitting next to an area with about 4-5 cops. They didn't do anything to stop the mass of fans cursing up a storm.
first of all, punching is battery not assault, assualt has to do with verbaly threatening etc... Hence the charge of Assault AND Battery. Next, as a member of the band for 4 years, recent years too, I found it funny at first but from year to year when I could hear it loud and clear over what was going on in the music from the far side of the U, I found it to become ridiculous and it does not represent the university well. Yes, I am for playing Tiger Rag because it was and still is one of my favorite school songs. But if not playing means making it clear that the university is not condoning the student chant that goes along with it, than I am fine with that. Yes the students have the right to say what they want, and the University has the right to say to a group that they fund and is the number one recruiting tool for the university, you can no longer play that song because it tarnishes the image of LSU.
