NCAA proposal would slow HUNH offenses..

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  1. GregLSU

    GregLSU LSUFANS.com

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    I'd say maybe your Bama defense might be... A&M beat yall once, and scored at will on you in the other, Auburn ran at will on you, and Oklahoma made yall look foolish... LSU defenses on the other hand have been HUNH killers... see A&M 3 times, Auburn, Oregon, WVU, GTech, etc.
     
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I can't imagine why Saban would want it gone. I mean it's almost as if he is trying to eliminate an aspect of the game he hasn't had much success of late defending.

    There is no data to support his argument, just seems like he is trying to make it easier on himself. That's what football is about, it's about exposing weaknesses of your opponent. I can almost 100% guarantee that if his offense was an uptempo offense he wouldn't be making these ridiculous claims.
     
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  3. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    You're mis-characterizing things, again. He's never made "an argument" stating more injuries happen with the HUNH.

    This is the exact text from his original comments, when asked, about the no-huddle in October of 2012 during the SEC teleconference.

    "I think that the way people are going no-huddle right now, that at some point in time, we should look at how fast we allow the game to go in terms of player safety. The team gets in the same formation group, you can't substitute defensive players, you go on a 14-, 16-, 18-play drive and they're snapping the ball as fast as you can go and you look out there and all your players are walking around and can't even get lined up. That's when guys have a much greater chance of getting hurt when they're not ready to play.

    "I think that's something that can be looked at. It's obviously created a tremendous advantage for the offense when teams are scoring 70 points and we're averaging 49.5 points a game. With people that do those kinds of things. More and more people are going to do it.

    That statement was followed by the question, "Is this what we want football to be?"

    At that point the reports had him stating the no-huddle offense leads to more injuries. Did he say the no huddle leads to more injuries? No. Are there people saying he's said that? Yes. And, they're wrong.

    This being presented under the "safety" monicker has to do with when it's implemented. The only way a rule can be instituted in 2014 is if it directly relates to player safety. That's wrong, no doubt. There's nothing to back that up.

    IF it were brought up under "competitive advantage"—as it should have been—it wouldn't be on the "docket" until next season. If you want to point to a coach as the one who made that decision, point to Troy Calhoun.
     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Saban runs a 3-4 defense and he prefers that his D lineman and linebackers are big guys. NT weighing around 330, DE's weighing around 300, LB's weighing around 250-260. That has to be very hard on those larger guys over the course of the game. Chief likes his LB's smallish and his DE's to be rangy and athletic enough to cover in the flats and I think, more than anything else, this has helped us against the HUNH offenses. No wonder Saban wants the rule changed....more and more schools are using the HUNH and are exploiting Bama's bulky defense as a result. Either the rules have to change or he has to change his style of defense.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Dude, player safety is directly related to injuries. Nothing I said was mis-characterized. You prove how right I am every time reply with your Saban loving bullshit. The dude is chickenshit.
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Me too. It makes me tired watching.

    I wouldn't mind seeing it curtailed a bit. As to the comments about its affect on the offense, as well as the defense, the offense knows what's about to happen (at least in theory). That is huge and imo tilts the Jessie Jackson proverbial "level playing field."

    What's next, you can kick off if the receiving team isn't ready in time?
     
  7. didit

    didit Veteran Member

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    I'm not saying I like the offense but I don't want to see it outlawed... Everybody can't recruit big, strong and fast guys... How long before someone complains about lineman being too big... One way to stop a team from running a scheme against you is to stop them and make them do something else... LSU hasn't had any issues stopping the no huddle...
     
  8. furduknfish

    furduknfish #ohnowesuckagain

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    Careful, the real Bama fans may give you some justice. As would most of those zebras livin in birm.
     
  9. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    You said, "there is no data to support his argument, just seems like he is trying to make it easier on himself."

    And I quoted exactly what he said which wasn't an argument against the no-huddle and it wasn't saying there are more injuries as a result of the no-huddle.

    You've taken a suggestion that something should be looked at and turned it into a statement of fact. That's mis-characterization.

    The fact that I read something, find it to be incorrect, and point it out has turned into "Saban loving bullshit" is another gross mis-characterization.
     
  10. TerryP

    TerryP Founding Member

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    Tom Ritter; lives in TN. Penn Wagers; lives in SC. Matt Austin; lives in KY as do Hackett Jr. and Potts. Stan Weihe; lives in GA. Chris Conely; lives in GA.

    Marc Curles; lives outside of Birmingham. So there's one.

    Who do you have?
     

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