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NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME-Saints Vs Vikings Sunday 1/24 5:40pm

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ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

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Will the Saints' defense create as many problems for Minnesota as it did against Arizona? Only if the Saints' offense gets off to another fast start. The Saints will tell you that their defense is better now because their secondary is healthier. While that is true, the defense also is far more effective when it's defending a lead. In those situations, the unit can pressure the quarterback more consistently and it also can go after turnovers more often. Playing with a lead also keeps the Saints from exposing their major weakness: run defense. There's a reason why Hightower rolled to a long touchdown run on the first play of the game. That kind of deflating moment could happen again Sunday if the Saints give a back like Adrian Peterson comparable running room.
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This is all a bunch of silly, speculative non-sense from someone who is pro-Vikings. Our first turnover against AZ occurred when we were down 7-0, btw. Also, we gave up an early score to Carolina, too, but then the defense got into a groove and played a good game against a strong run team, much like we did against AZ.

ParadiseiNC, Jan 18, 2010

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Saints and give 4 points -vegas

If Buddy D was right about one thing, it was the odds makers get it way more right than anyone else including the experts. :thumb:

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These are the best two teams in the NFC and it should be a good battle. If both teams are completely healthy, I believe the Saints are the better team.

The Saints have the larger margain of victory this year and only lost three games when...

1) they had a massive number of injuries
2) nothing to play for

They led Tampa 17-0 and then just started going through the motions. Dallas had to win and played their best game of the season yet the Saints were a dropped TD by Henderson from tying the game. Against Carolina the Saints rested many starters including Brees.

If Minnesota's D-line can get the pressure or the Saints secondary plays poorly, the Vikings can win. If Minnesota has trouble getting to Brees, the Saints should win as they have a better offense.

Neither has won a Super Bowl so one will get a chance this year.

PURPLE TIGER, Jan 18, 2010

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LSUTiger knows how to copy and paste and has no original thought.

And Brett Favre blows.

islstl, Jan 18, 2010

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*LSUTiger* said: ↑

Will the Saints' defense create as many problems for Minnesota as it did against Arizona? Only if the Saints' offense gets off to another fast start. The Saints will tell you that their defense is better now because their secondary is healthier. While that is true, the defense also is far more effective when it's defending a lead. When Greer and Porter have been in the lineup together, the Saints have only trailed twice, against Miami and Arizona. Both Saints victories.In those situations, the unit can pressure the quarterback more consistently and it also can go after turnovers more often. Playing with a lead also keeps the Saints from exposing their major weakness: run defense. There's a reason why Hightower rolled to a long touchdown run on the first play of the game. That kind of deflating moment could happen again Sunday if the Saints give a back like Adrian Peterson comparable running room.
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The Saints gave up long 1st drive touchdown runs against Atlanta and Carolina, and a long 1st quarter TD to Miami. All Saints victories.

mctiger, Jan 19, 2010

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Will Sidney Rice dominate the Saints' secondary in the same fashion he did Dallas'? The Vikings' wide receiver probably won't have three touchdowns but New Orleans should be concerned. The Cowboys have better cornerbacks than the Saints and they had no answer for Rice, who is on his way to his first Pro Bowl. Is Rice better than Larry Fitzgerald? He didn't touch the ball against the Saints until he was down 21 points. His 6 catches for 77 yards were meaningless. But you also can bet that Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams isn't going to allow one receiver to terrorize his defense. Since the Saints don't have anything close to the pass rush that Dallas has, there will be immense pressure on Saints safety Darren Sharper and his fellow defensive backs to limit big plays. If they can't do that, this could get ugly.
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And you don't think Sharper is chomping at the bit to get after the team that cut him loose?

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How excited should Vikings defensive end Jared Allen be for this contest? He should be thrilled because he'll be facing Saints left tackle Jermon Bushrod, a third year veteran in his first season as a starter. Bushrod had it easy against the Cardinals because Arizona doesn't have an elite pass rusher. Allen will be a different story. The three-time Pro Bowler had 14.5 sacks this season, and another huge one that forced a Tony Romo fumble in the first half of Sunday's divisional playoff win over Dallas. Let's also not forget that Dallas outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware gave Bushrod serious trouble in the Cowboys' regular-season win over New Orleans on Dec. 19 (Ware had two sacks and a forced fumble). The bottom line: Allen will have a field day if the Saints don't give Bushrod some help.
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Considering Sean Payton has already said he should have given Bushrod some help against Ware, I think its safe to assume he won't make the same mistake against Allen.

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Will Bush be as effective in this game as he was against Arizona?No. As well as Bush played Saturday he had 217 all-purpose yards, including a 46-yard touchdown run and an 83-yard punt return for a score it's hard to remember the last time he put together two consecutive good games. He also touches the ball only about seven to 10 times a game. That's not enough opportunities for him to duplicate the success he had against the Cardinals. The upside is that Bush's big game gave the Vikings one more thing to worry about in this week's preparation. So even if the odds of him thrilling the home fans again on Sunday are low, he's already accomplished something equally useful for his team.
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I'm betting Sean Payton noticed that Bush played pretty well against the Cards, and is preparing to use him more against the Vikes. But he'll likely be limited in one aspect: considering he lit up the Vikes for 2 punt return TDs last year (and was a turf monster tackle away from a third), only an idiot would punt him the ball this weekend.

mctiger, Jan 19, 2010

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If I remember right, Jarred Allen really did much until that backup for the cowboys came in. Not to mention we will be at home where we won't have to go on silent count. Establishing the run, hard counts, and TE/RB clips will keep them from pinning their ears back.

Oh and their QB was Tony Oh-no, ours is Drew Brees.

24-10! Black and gold to the super bowl.

Whodat!

JM Tiger, Jan 19, 2010

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PURPLE TIGER said: ↑

These are the best two teams in the NFC and it should be a good battle. If both teams are completely healthy, I believe the Saints are the better team.

The Saints have the larger margain of victory this year and only lost three games when...

1) they had a massive number of injuries
2) nothing to play for

They led Tampa 17-0 and then just started going through the motions. Dallas had to win and played their best game of the season yet the Saints were a dropped TD by Henderson from tying the game. Against Carolina the Saints rested many starters including Brees.

If Minnesota's D-line can get the pressure or the Saints secondary plays poorly, the Vikings can win. If Minnesota has trouble getting to Brees, the Saints should win as they have a better offense.

Neither has won a Super Bowl so one will get a chance this year.
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Agree fully.

Greer and Porter will allow Sharper to play centerfielder, which is the defensive key to victory.

Childress is an idiot, but Favre offsets him on the field, so that is a wash.

Brees and a solid run performance will secure a win.

Healthy, I really think the Saints are the better team and will win.

ParadiseiNC, Jan 19, 2010

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