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LSUTiga · Oct 3, 2007

TenTexLA said: ↑

I'm hoping someone really close to the ND program sees this thread. I would really like to know more about what is really going on up there in South Bend. What I've heard so far is not new. I wonder if Charlie Weis is just not head coach material.

Question??? With Notre Dame ranked so low, how bad will this reflect on USC's BCS ranking? I'm sure USC counts on a high strength of schedule boast from ND. I know the Pac 10 is up but a winless Notre Dame team could be disaster for USC BCS points.
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SOS was taken out of the BCS forumula.

TenTexLA · Oct 3, 2007

lsutiga said: ↑

SOS was taken out of the BCS forumula.
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I thought it was just diminished. Completely?

LSUTiga · Oct 3, 2007

TenTexLA said: ↑

I thought it was just diminished. Completely?
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I'm not sure, thought I'd read that. I could be completely wrong....I'll check.

KajunKenny · Oct 3, 2007

StaceyO said: ↑

Well, that's fitting because Tulane gave us a better game in the Superdome than ND did.
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LOL.. I Was gonna give ya some rep for that post but the little rep thingie is gone... sup with that?

LSUTiga · Oct 3, 2007

TenTexLA said: ↑

I thought it was just diminished. Completely?
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I don't pay much attn. to the formulas, I hate math and was one reasons I majored in English but here's what I found:

Strength of schedule, quality wins eliminated from BCS formula

July 15, 2004
SportsLine.com wire reports
The Associated Press poll will count for one-third of each team's ranking under the new formula Bowl Championship Series officials unveiled Thursday in their latest attempt to find a simpler, more equitable way to determine a national champion.
Under the new formula, which begins this season, the AP writers' poll, the coaches' poll and a combination of computer rankings will each count for one-third of a team's overall BCS ranking.
Strength of schedule, team record and quality wins, three components used under the old system, have all been eliminated.
"In analyzing the BCS standings, we wanted to develop a ranking formula that would be simpler and more precise," said BCS chairman Kevin Weiberg, the commissioner of the Big 12 Conference.
In three of the last four seasons, there have been at least three teams with legitimate claims for a spot in the BCS title game.
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http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/7499505

A breakdown of the components:
I. Harris Interactive Poll (1/3rd)
Replaces the AP Poll. The first poll will be released September 24, then weekly through December 4. A team's score in the Harris poll will be divided by 2,825, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 113 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 2,825 / 2,825 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 113 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04).

II. Coaches Poll (1/3rd)
A team's score in the USA Today poll will be divided by 1,575, which is the maximum number of points any team can receive if all 63 voting members rank the same team as Number 1. (Example: 1,575 / 1,575 = 1.0. If a team receives a total of 63 voting points, an average of 25th place, their BCS quotient of this component would be .04. (1.0 / 25 = 0.04.)

(Better understanding the polls: In both human polls, voting members fill out their own top 25 rankings ballot. Each team receives 1-25 points in reverse order of the way they are ranked. The 25th place team on each ballot receives 1 point, 24th place gets 2 points, 23rd receives 3 points... first place receives 25 points.

In the Harris Interactive College Football Poll and USA Today Coaches Poll, a team will be evaluated on the number of voting points it receives in each poll. The number of actual voters, which can vary and has varied in the past, is figured into the computation on a weekly basis in stating each team's percentage of a possible perfect score.

III. Computer rankings (1/3rd)
Six computer ranking systems will participate. The highest and lowest rating of each team will be thrown out and the remaining four will be averaged. The current participating computer rankings are:

Peter Wolfe
Wes Colley
Sagarin
Seattle Times
Richard Billingsley
Kenneth Massey
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http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_explained.html

jreed999 · Oct 3, 2007

Hawker45 said: ↑

That's CharLLLLLie 'eis.

now with 5 L's and no W.
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:rofl: Now that's the funniest thing I've seen all day!

I like to think of it like this:

Notre Dame, after suffering a brutal, merciless beating at the hands of the LSU Tigers in the 2007 SugarBowl, was so devastated and completely embarassed that they never recovered. They were so badly manhandled that each player lost his drive and determination to ever play competitively again... When Coach Weis asked his players to put forth their best effort at the onset of this year's season, one of his offensive linemen looked at him with trepidation, an unmistakable terror in his eyes, and said "But Coach, if we end up having another good year, we might have to face Glen Dorsey and LSU again." In unison, the rest of the team gasped. It was then the plan was formed to put up as few offensive points as humanly possible.

TenTexLA · Oct 3, 2007

Thanks for posting. I guess that is why the AP always votes against the BCS if given any reason to. I still think 2003 AP voting USC #1 was all about protesting against the BCS. We did what we were suppose to and won in 2003.

col reb · Oct 3, 2007

OkieTiger said: ↑

at 100 even tulane is ahead of nd. :hihi:
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AIN'T IT A SHAME? I'M TOO SCARED TO GO LOOK FOR THE REBS!!!!!!!!!!:bncry: :nope: :cuss: o: :angryfire :rofl:

furduknfish · Oct 3, 2007

Wonder how much of the QB talent/experience drop off could be attributed to CW keeping BQ in for blowouts, to allegedly pad his offensive stats? I know Clausen is a frosh, but maybe one of the other guys they have could be taking the brunt of this with a little more experience...

Now lets also assume CW did the same thing with the rest of the 1rst team. I do not watch or track ND football so I can't confirm but maybe someone else can.

Food for thought...
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PURPLE TIGER · Oct 3, 2007

Hey...if you get rid of the first 100...they're #1.

There's probably a clause in the BCS that states Notre Dame is still bowl eligible if they finish in the Top 10 of the second hundred or the Top 3 of the Independents. :hihi: