i think most SEC fans would be surprised to learn that the Pac 10 is 12-10 versus the SEC since 2000:
UCLA 4-0 vs SEC (beat Alabama twice, beat Tennessee twice)
USC 4-0 vs SEC (beat Auburn twice, beat Arkansas twice)
Oregon 3-1 vs SEC (beat TN, beat MSU twice, lost to Aub on last sec FG)
Cal 1-1 vs SEC (beat 10-4 Tennessee, lost @ Tennessee)
Stanford 0-0 vs SEC
Oregon State 0-1 vs SEC (lost to LSU by 1 pt)
Washington 0-1 vs SEC (lost to LSU by 8 pts)
Washington St 0-1 vs SEC (lost to 11-2 Auburn team in 2006)
Arizona 0-2 vs SEC (lost to 11-2 LSU and 13-1 LSU)
Arizona State 0-3 vs SEC (lost to Georgia twice by 3 pts and 17 pts, lost to LSU by 4 pts)

sure, the SEC has produced more nfl talent than the Pac 10 (although there are years where the Pac 10 has just as many players drafted per team that the SEC has, including in this last nfl draft... also the last nfl pro bowl team had more Pac 10 players than SEC players)

and sure, the SEC has more powerhouse football programs, but that doesn't mean the Pac 10 sucks. they have people here acting like the Pac 10 is the MWC, WAC, Sun Belt, C-USA, etc

since the 2001 draft, six Pac 10 teams have had 30 to 38 players taken in the nfl draft (38 Cal, 36 Oregon, 35 Stanford, 32 Oregon State, 30 Arizona State, 30 UCLA), which is just as many as Auburn (38), South Carolina (30), and Arkansas (28) -- and all three of those teams are competitive in the SEC: Auburn went to the SEC Championship in '00, '04, and '10, and won the SEC in 2004 and 2010. Arkansas went to the SEC Championship in '02 and '06. South Carolina went to the SEC Championship in 2010

so if those three teams could be competitive in the SEC, there is no reason why the six Pac 10 teams with similar talent couldn't have been just as competitive in the SEC. of course, in addition to those six teams, the Pac 10 also has USC, which has had more players drafted since the 2001 draft than any single SEC team

It's hard for me to fathom any PAC12 fan, "being thankful that there is no football tournament at the end of the season".


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um, it's U, not you.

If you are going to add in the slim margin of victory in some of those games then go the whole nine. Put up the other scores too because there were a few bloodbaths in there. Without looking it up I can't speak for the other sec teams but besides the Arizona St game which was moved last second and just an accomplishment in itself to win with Katrina. The UW game was competitive. The Arizona game was an absolute murder. I'm sure there are some that went the other way but don't put (lost by 3) unless u want to put (LSU just scored again on Arizona and the game was in 03') just a little humor duck fans. Just saying that we should leave out margin of victories unless we are making a list of classic games. In sports, a win is a win is a win.

Hey Tiger_Fan, what's your deal? Are you playing devil's advocate, keeping the conversation interesting? Or are you pulling for the Ducks? ! !

Rivals.com College Football - By the numbers: NFL draft since 2000

Again, talent difference week to week...

I am so sorry these facts hurt opposing teams so much.......

PAC10 331
SEC 451

First round picks:
PAC10 43
SEC 74

Though this is only through 2010...


This is a fun fact:

As you mentioned, USC has 69 players in the NFL according to that list. That makes USC field 20% of the draft-able players from the PAC10.

While Oregon's 37 players is 11%

LSU had 55 according to that list which is only 12%.

UF 13%
UGA 13%
Bama 9%

and so on...

I mean its clear, without USC's player contribution, the PAC10 would just break 300 players in the NFL....


The SEC also has 6 teams......6 with a higher NFL player makeup than Oregon....

i've actually been comtemplating going to an oregon discussion board and saying "hey guise, you wouldn't believe what all these delusional LSU fans are saying over on tigerfan.com," so i'm glad you showed up. when i first showed up on here, there was this very knowledgeable duck poster that knew his team very well, but he has since disappeared, unfortunately

as for what i think of the oregon football program, sorry but i'm not a fan. i think your uniforms are a disgrace to the game and to your own school. i wouldn't mind if you at least wore your school colors. West Virginia and Virginia Tech are two schools that like to come out in wild/trendy uniforms, but they at least wear their school colors. oregon will come out in all black or in gray/silver and black like they did in the championship game. i think that's disgraceful that you don't even wear your own school colors

also, i think chip kelly come across as a smug, arrogant prick. i think he's a brilliant football coach and he has said and done some things that i liked, but overall he comes across as a smug, arrogant prick and it's hard to like somebody like that

as for the Pac 10 as a whole, i always root against them when they play the SEC. for example, i can remember the place i was at and the people i was hanging out with when UCLA beat Tennessee to kick off the 2008 season (LSU has just beat Tennessee in the SEC Championship at the end of 2007). that ruined my whole afternoon. same thing when oregon went to Tennessee last season. i was convinced Tennessee would win (LSU has only beaten Tennessee at Tennessee once in our entire history), and i can remember the place i was at and the people i was with while watching that game, and it ruined my whole afternoon to see oregon dominate them

I guess that means you aren't an Oregon fan? :rofl:

i just double checked. we've actually beaten Tennessee @ Tennessee twice: we did it in 2006 with Jamarcus Russell (nail-biter game that we won by 4) and we did it in 1988 with Tommy Hodson (comfortable win). other than that, we've lost every other time we've played in Neyland, except for a 0-0 tie in 1925. the most painful loss was when our 1958-1959 Tigers, which was one of the most dominant teams in college football history, had their 19-game winning streak broken by a 1 pt loss @ Neyland to a 5-4-1 Tennessee team

That game in 06 was the game that I think Johnathan Crompton quarterbacked and had a touchdown pass to Robert Meachem. We ended up winning late going 80 yards on 15 plays, capping it off with an Early D touchdown from Jamarcus.