Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by mobius481, Aug 11, 2012.
actually Ryan has said that himself with his votes, so he is pretty confused.
Wait a second. You said "I don't actually think the budget deficit is the moderates biggest issue by a long shot." The Gallup graph is evidence that you're completely wrong with 82% of Independence believing the budget deficit and debt are either extremely important or very important. The graph shows the debt is the second biggest issue among Independence and behind healthcare cost by a meager 2 percentage points.
Look, you've stated on many occasions how successful Clinton was in deficit reduction. I presented you a video of Clinton's former White House chief of staff saying that Paul Ryan's budget is sensible and would cut the budget deficit by trillions just like Clinton did. Do you not value his opinion? You are clearly downplaying the importance of the national debt to moderates instead of giving Ryan's plan credit.
it's a little hard to tell, frankly. while gwb was prez Ryan never saw a spending bill that he didn't want to ink his name too. then barry wins and ryan is the champion of fiscal of conservatism. which is it? libs, indy's and neo-cons want to know?
Perhaps I was imprecise, let me rephrase . . . I don't actually think by a long shot that the budget deficit is the moderates biggest issue. Meaning that I didn't have the data handy but my confident guess was that it was not.
Yes, it very accurately confirms that I was correct. The budget deficit is not the moderates biggest issue.
Based on his performance in office. Indeed I do.
It's a mid-level bureaucrat's opinion a decade after Clinton's term. I value his opinion slightly less than I value a good chili dog. I don't even value Clinton's opinion today on par with his true record in the 90's. Bill's opinion, I would equate with riding through the Ouachita mountains on Ark 7 on an autumn morning in a convertible turbo sportcar with a heavily-hootered young lady listening to Van Morrison.
Everybody's got an opinion. I set my own based on my perceptions, not blindly following other's opinions.
Amigo. It's a political debate forum. Are you shocked that my oratory is crafted to support my argument?
why do you have to "pay for" tax cuts? they are good no matter what. and they dont even necessarily reduce government revenue.
wars are not relevant economic issues. if you need one you need one. they cost alot and thats too bad.
he did vote for tarp, which is terrible.
Duuuuh! If you don't have the income to pay the bills, you have to borrow the money. Tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts are irresponsible . . . and Republican party dogma.
we disagree on how to stimulate an economy. i say borrowning money to cut taxes is ok. you say borrowing money to bailout your cronies is ok. my cronies are the taxpayers.
at any rate, we should be cutting taxes at all times, simply to create debt, if that debt motivates spending cuts. because again, the goal is economic growth, not a debt free government.
No, no, no. I will not participate in another childish discussion where you start out trying to set my position to something you want to argue against. I said nothing at all about economy stimulus or that borrowing money is OK, in fact I said the opposite. I responded to your naive statement asking why tax cuts must be paid for. It's very simple and I said it simply. Respond to that or you are talking to yourself.
tax cuts cause growth, which raises tax revenue even as rates are lowered.
also you are incorrect about our own political leanings. it would be easier for everyone if i speak or you. you are a keynesian. you always agree with paul krugman. you beleive that a central authority should step in to manipulate the economy. you are like the capital city in the hunger games.
you are smarter than this, you know it and the whole forum does.
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