And I've argued for none of those remedies here. I've argued for things like reforestation, smokestack scrubbers, wind power, and technology for new energy sources--hydrogen, gravity, magnetics, and zero-point technology, some of which are quite advanced. Friggin' Holland leads the word in air power because they give tax breaks to wind turbine factories and we give them to Big Oil. These remedies have no downside. We need to focus on clean coal technology, energy plants are a huge polluter. The technology is simple and affordable. Pollution from petroleum burning will take care of itself with the approach of Peak Oil. We'll simply run out of it, so there is no need to go overboard with expensive cures. Hybrid vehicles and such will be needed because oil is going to get reeeeeeally expensive before it runs out.
You haven't answered a single question of mine except to ask another question. You got nuthin'. Nary a clue.
Ah yes. Big Oil. There's the real reason you get so hot under the collar on this topic. The damn rich getting richer. Holland leads the world in whores too. We won't run out of it. We'll just leave it in the ground. You price a hybrid vehicle lately?
They are actually more affordable right now than they have ever been. The breakevens on them are still generally really far out when compared to comparable vehicles like a regular Toyota Carolla, but if you are some liberal hippie crap bag its a good time to buy.
no downside? are they free? and reforestation? of what land? i have some land, i grow pine trees on it, i dont need to be told to reforest it. do you mean reforestation of federal land? and who pays for all your hydrogen and gravity and magnetics and zero-point (holy christ, what is that?) technology? taxpayers? the same taxpayers that wanted to buy something else with the money they worked for? who is "we"? if what you say is true and we run out of oil, then the market will surely take care of it, given the enormous profit that is to be made. and if we do run out of oil, then isnt global warming a non-issue?
Nothing is free. Including doing nothing. Of course. Trees process carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. So we reforest deforested areas. The trees themselves can be sustained indefinitely providing income for landowners, including the government, wildlife habitats and recreational opportunities for republican entrepreneurs. You see a downside here? The same people paying for fossil fuel energy now--you and me. How can you miss such an obvious conclusion? You are just being argumentative now. Look it up and learn something. Ignorance of alternative energy sources is part of the problem many seem to have in understanding green technology. You'll figure it out. Oil isn't the only polluter, coal is worse and will last longer. I've already answered half of these questions, got anything new or are you just indulging in your jejune obsession with getting in the last post? martin is definitely back . . .
ah, so you concede there is a downside. my point is that the downside is worse thn doing nothing. the most important thing is the economy. not just here, but everywhere. a good economy makes for more human well-being than some half baked spending program you are favoring. again, my question is what land? again, i own land, i grow trees on it. i dont need you to tell me to reforest. nobody needs you to tell them that. just what land are you talking about. lumber companies that grow trees are already reforesting as fast as they can so that they can sell. telling people to reforest is like telling a farmer to grow crops. it is really none of your business what people do with land. i am not sure what you mean. but i do know i do not consume very much fossil fuels. i ride a bike and the subway and i do not own a car, my apartment is small and i am incredibly energy efficient. i even use the fancy light bulbs. this isnt my problem. i do not care about fossil fuels. i dont care if they find alternatives or not. when i need energy, i will buy it. trust me, somebody will be selling. if they run out of petrolem, there will be an alternative. you will not need tax money to find this alternative. the genius of the free market is that somebody who wants my money will figure it out for me and will not ask for money until i want to buy it. i dunno what jejune is. what i do know is that you want to control way too much of other people's lives. we can manage our energy needs without your help. if we want to invest in alternatives, we will, dont force it. when you do not force it, the system works effeciently because people get to put their money behind what works and not what politicians decide most benefits their cronies.
