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Pope quits...

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Swerved, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Freshman

    The Pope is the Bishop of Rome, the successor of Peter. The other Bishops across the world are the successors of the other 11 apostles. Each Bishop is in control of the priests in their territory (diocese)...they approve them for the seminary, approve them for ordination, and are in charge of them as priests.

    Bishops like Law in Boston moved pedo priests around instead of kicking them out, and now the Boston dioceses has been crippled by lawsuits because of his gross negligence

    Bishops in Louisiana, and in 99% of the world haven't done that. Here in Louisiana, a priest got caught having sex in a public bathroom with a 50 year old male, he was kicked out of the priesthood. Another was embezzling money from his parish. Kicked out of priesthood. 99% of the Bishops kick out pedo priests. It's just that 1% that makes it seem like Bishops dont (there are tens of thousands of Bishops controlling tens of thousands of diocese worldwide)
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon

    Come on, Steve. This is not true. Catholicism has added a ton of new dogma since the time of the apostles. Catholics are told to call their priests "Father". This was not done by the apostles. In fact . . .

    "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven." -- Matthew 23:9

    The rosary and its repetitive prayers were invented in 1029AD and were copied from Pagan religions. In fact . . .

    "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words." Matthew 6:7

    The deification of Mary is another Catholic addition to the gospels. Of the 59 total beads of the Rosary, 53 beads are "Hail Marys", but only 6 beads are "Our Father". The Rosary most often ends with a "Hail, Holy Queen" prayer to Mary, not God. Yet . . .

    "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Timothy 2:5

    The celibacy of priests was not mandated until 1079. Yet the gospels preach that a bishop must be married and also have children.

    "A bishop, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?)" 1 Timothy 3:2-5

    There are many other examples.

    There is no "proof" here at all. None.
  3. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    Those aren't infallible doctrines where the pope speaks "ex Cathedra"

    As for the Mary intersession, that's off topic...If Mary can't intercede for us, then we have no business interceding for (praying for) each other. But that's a discussion for another day I guess....better over a few cold drinks :)
  4. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    Who deifies Mary? :confused:
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

    Alright, which child molester reassigner is next?
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon

    People who PRAY to her! Duuuh!

    Name me one "infallible" doctrine.
  7. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

    Deification means people think she's God...like Jesus. No Catholics think that.

    -How about God created the earth for an infallible doctrine.
  8. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Freshman

    I don't know. The first papal encyclical addressing the theory of evolution, Humani Generis (1950) by Pope Pius XII, said Catholics are free to form their own opinions on evolution, but that "the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God"

    And Pope Benedict wrote this:

    "According to the widely accepted
    scientific account, the universe
    erupted 15 billion years ago in an
    explosion called the 'Big Bang ' and
    has been expanding and cooling
    ever since. Later there gradually
    emerged the conditions necessary
    for the formation of atoms , still later
    the condensation of galaxies and
    stars, and about 10 billion years
    later the formation of planets . In
    our own solar system and on earth
    (formed about 4.5 billion years
    ago), the conditions have been
    favorable to the emergence of life .
    While there is little consensus
    among scientists about how the
    origin of this first microscopic life is
    to be explained, there is general
    agreement among them that the
    first organism dwelt on this planet
    about 3.5–4 billion years ago.
    Since it has been demonstrated
    that all living organisms on earth
    are genetically related, it is virtually
    certain that all living organisms
    have descended from this first
  9. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Freshman

    Catholics don't pray to Mary, they ask Mary to pray for us, just like I'd ask you to pray for me or vice versa
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

    Wen you ask her, how do you contact her? Isn't she dead? Do you use magic to contact her?

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