That's the attitude of a loser ... maybe we should just shut down the men's basketball program. Thankfully, winners like Bertman and Saban proved you can build something special here if the committment is made. Keep telling yourself it can't happen, and it never will.
We obviously disagree and I don't want for this discussion to turn personal as some basketball discussions have but...... Coulda woulda shoulda....it doesn't mean jack!!!!!! One play didn't lose the game and no way Southern Miss should have been in the game after the opening tip. No way I will accept LSU basketball at or near the bottom and I strongly disagree that LSU should not be expected to compete in the SEC. If a winner can be built at Mississippi State why in the hell not here? I'm not talking about a national contender just a quality team. We lost to Southern Miss, I'm proud that the team fought hard but no way should we ever lose to SM. We should be able to beat them without our best 3 or 4 players consistantly. Once again nothing personal but I strongly disagree that we should accept the current state of the program, no way no how.
I agree. I don't see why this guy is acting like we never won here and never will. We lost in football for 10 years......should we have given up and starting playing soccer in Tiger Stadium? I'll tell you what, like somebody else said......the day Mississippi State is better than us in anything is the day some coach at LSU should be fired. We have the resources, the money, the alumni and the high school talent to succeed in basketball and once this Brady experiment is done, we'll hire a Calipari or Floyd and be on our way. In all truth, I am shocked at how the SEC schools have allowed their basketball programs to suffer overall in an effort to get their football teams in order. I remember basketball in the 80s and early 90s and most of the SEC had top 25 teams. Vandy was very good, Tennessee has never been good and I thought when they built that huge arena that they were making a committment. Georgia was decent, Auburn with Sonny Smith and Bama with Wimp were always good. When Miss. State tops the west every year, you know something is wrong. Maybe the 80s were college basketball's heyday.
Saban Fan I have defended this program for all the years Brady has been here. I will wait until the season plays out before I switch. However, if you are saying that we can't compete with Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Southern Mississippi then I strongly disagree. That is like being satisfied with the state of our football team when Coach Bryant was taking McClendon to the wood shed every year in football. Alabama may have been the better program but we should have been competitive. Arnsparger and Saban have proved that we could have been competitive. It depends, IMO, if the LSU Administration is willing to put the emphasis where it is needed. If Gonzaga can be an annual power in basketball then I see no reason LSU can't.
Calipari? this guy is the perfect coach to throw in the face of all the Brady bashers. Brady has done much more than him--and with much less. Face it, its tough to have a consistantly good team. And, sorry for bringing this up again, its especially hard to have both a good football and basketball program in the sec. I, too, say "see ya regis." NEVER have admired players for leaving for pt. especially one's with 21/2 yrs left.
SabanFan...How many National Championships did we win between 1958-2003? SabanFan...How many outright conference championships did we win, excluding 1988, from 1958-2000? SabanFan...How many appearances did we make in the SEC Championship game from its inception in 1992 and 2001? SabanFan...How many times were we ranked #1 inbetween 1959 and the end of 2003? I'm just wondering...Since it was few and far between for all those national championships, conference championships, championship game apperances, and the like, why we didn't just get used to mediocrity... I mean, the recent past in LSU football heading into the innagural season of the Nick Saban Era was that LSU had had losing seasons in 8 of the previous 11 years. The best we could do was a 10-2 season in which we were obliterated by a combined score of 82-14 by the likes of Florida & Alabama in 1996, with an All-American at running back and a stacked offensive line. What was the impetus for LSU to try to become a successful program and a player on the national landscape of collegiate football? Why didn't we just embrace our past, our dearth of success, and our overall level of current mediocrity as the 20th Century came to a close? You sir, are a sincerely confused individual, and play a convincing role as the dumbest smart person on this site... Mire in the mediocrity all you like...Bellow via your keyboard at those who would stand up and demand results from the school and program and leaders of the teams they love...Sit back and relax, and just let the losses and losing, and bad character recruits, and arrests, and the losses, and the defiance and attitude, and the losses...and the losses...and the losses...all wash over you...
Go ask anyone about how many plaques LSU has up for "pride" purposes in recognition of close losses to second rate CUSA schools who hired former drunks who stay behind after conference road games to booze it up with students he heard were throwing a bender at an off campus apartment... I'll hope that when you find we don't "tack" one up to the wall in the LSU Basketball Offices, you'll be the man to donate the funds necessary-down to the cost of the nail and the framing-to put it up so that "fans" like you can show the team how much pride you put stock in when it comes to losses. You infer that those that complain about the coaching and the results and the individuals who are recruited to represent and take the court for LSU on the court of competition are poor fans, or poor sports, or obsessed with wins and losses. Well, no one here has gone out on the limb like you have, claiming that Tack threw away the game, and singularly laying the defeat at the feet of one player (I wonder...Did his man score 80 points all alone?)... No one here is willing to rewrite history like you are, claiming that Johnny Jones tried to "buy a player" to "keep it going"...I mean, you're a complete fool if you think that isn't how they got it going in the first place... Go check the Biloxi police records...Find out about how Johnny claims his hotel room was broken into on a recruiting trip and-magically-two stacks of high society were missing...Not clothes...Not jewelry, not memorabilia, not cellphones, not laptops...Just a clean 20,000.00... Go ask how Randy Livingston got into an accident in New Orleans in a luxury automobile during his tenure at LSU, and magically never even so much as got a ticket... Don't be the fool who claims that Johnny Jones was the lone gunman on the Grassy Knoll in Dallas that fateful day...Johnny Jones was a bagman for the headman...and Redfield Ryan was but one source of "recruiting capital"... I love Dale Brown...But he was guilty...and don't try to sit here and spin this all as people being bad fans or rewrite the ugly history of LSU Basketball... We can win...and we did win...and we won legitimately...and we won dirty...and we were punished for all the years Brown hoodwinked the NCAA...But don't you dare castigate people for calling for a change when its apparent we can afford Churchill's when we're still dining at the Dollar menu at McD's... Now, someone hold the soapbox steady while I step down off of it...
Real nice. Well, I guess no one can ever say you lack class. I think SabanFan is just tired of all you moaners. I often wonder if it just comes down to the fact that some people like to bitch (I don't know why, maybe their wives ride them too hard and they come here to take it out on Brady) and others are optimistic (to a fault, probably).
I am not sure if SabanFan would ever give up on ANY coach. Talk about seeing the glass half full and taking it to new heights. But when it's half full of feces, it's not a good thing.
SabanFan knows that his keen intellect and rapier wit plateau much higher in the mental stratosphere...I must devolve myself to petty insults to battle him to mask a true feeling of inferiority...Like a mere mortal at the throne of Zeus high atop mighty Mount Olympus itself...
