Saban & Bama threads consolidated

BB, what you have to consider here is that, as LSU fans, we have no relationship whatsover with ANY of the above mentioned quitters such as Petrino, Rice's coach, and Tulsa's coach. We don't like Saban. It also should be pointed out that Louisville, Rice, and Tulsa have all enjoyed success right before their coaches "bolted". We weren't nearly as intolerant of CNS when he left here, because he had done a great job, and we thought he was leaving to pursue his dream in the NFL. Most of us, including me, wished that he would achieve success in the NFL, but when he didn't, and then acted like he did during the process, his image was tarnished. You have to know that it's not just LSU fans that see him in a bad light. On Tidefans, I'm not allowed to bash him, but on here, he's fair game for all of us. You are a respected poster here to those of us who spend a lot of time reading your posts. I just don't understand why you and others try to defend him on THIS board. It's kinda like pi$$ing in the wind.

 

I agree 100%! :thumb:

 

I find it beneficial to pick my battles wisely. Wouldn't catch me fighting Chollie Weis for the last slice o' pizza. :hihi: :hihi:

 

This (the bolded text) is what I was and usually try to get at. Trust me, the purpose of my responses to people that bring this subject up is not to defend him but to get to the REAL reason they are bashing him. The most used platforms for bashing Saban is that he "quit before the job was done", "lied by saying he wasn't going to Bama then did" and "Only thinks about Nick and no one else". When in all reality Y'all (LSU fans) just plain do not like the man because (as you have stated) y'all had a "relationship".

So would it be "reaching" or "fair" to say that if this "quitting before the contract was fulfilled" element and the "I'm not going to coach Bama..." element would have never happened y'all still be just as mad?

I guess through all of this jibber jabber I just typed what I'm trying to say and have been trying to figure out is that y'all hate/dispise/loathe/wouldn't piss on if he was on fire Saban because 1. Left LSU, 2. He took a job within the same conference and division and 3. To a school that could potentially be a threat (because be honest if the dude went to Vandy y'all would have laughed til you cried.) It had nothing to do with his lack of integrity or lack of commitment to a contract with the Dolphins.

 

Are you trying to persuade me to change my my opinion that Saban is a Quitter? If so, your points aren't very persuasive.

I did not say that every coach who leaves a job for another is a Quitter. I said that Nick Saban is a Quitter. I based my opinion on the particular, individual and unique facts of the Saban abandonment of a NFL franchise, its owner, and its fanbase.

You can try to deflect my points by bringing up other situations that have nothing to do with Saban. You may even convince yourself, and the Bama Nation that Nick Saban is not a Quitter. The facts, however, speak for themselves.

Actions speak louder than words. Nick bolted because he knew that the chips were down in Dolphinland . . . that, Sir, is a QUITTER.

LSU! :crystal: :lsup:

 

Not going to get into a tit for tat over this. This is an LSU board and I am a "guest". I'll respect your "house" and we'll just have to disagree with regards of other coaches doing the same thing. Just for the record I never said how Saban handled it was "right".

 

I say that Nick Saban is a Quitter. My opinion isn't based on any emotion of mine . . . my love for LSU, or anything else. It has everything to do with the fact that Saban bolted because his psychological make-up does not permit him to face adversity, fight through adversity and continue to coach Miami through the hard times, because to do so, he would face the possibility of failure.

When a man quits and leaves in the face of adversity he is a Quitter.

When a man takes the easy road out of a situation, rather than doing the right thing, because the right thing is too difficult for his personal tastes -- he is a Quitter.

Football players have to face realities on the field every down of every play. A particular play may require you to block a defensive player that is a far superior athlete than you. Suppose you have tried and failed to execute that block against a superior defensive athlete two times in a big game. Suppose that, when the play is called for the third time in this big game, you know that you are not likely to successfully block that defensive player.

What do you do? If you are Nick Saban, you don't even try to block the superior athlete that you are assigned to block. Instead, you pick on the NEXT guy, who isn't assigned to you, and you block HIM instead, because you know that you can beat that man. This is not what real football players do.

Real men and real football players face adversity and focus all of their effort on defeating the adversity, even if you failed a hundred times before. This is called "character." This is called "persistence." This is called "moral courage."

I wonder if Nick Saban has ANY of these qualities.

LSU! :crystal: :lsup:

 

A lot of hatred for the man who won you your first National Title in, what, almost 50 years and brought you from 8 of 11 losing seasons to national prominence?

 

I wonder if all these bama fans could just be honest, i'm sure you would all be just fine if stallings had left claiming he just had to give the pros one more shot after his MNC, then quit in 2 short years and came to coach LSU, I"m sure you would all be just fine with that, right? thats bulls**t and all of you know it!!!!!!!! so fess up and quit acting like you just can't believe some of LSU fan's reaction. you guys freaked out when fran bolted and he didn't win like saban did here or stay as long. you guys are just as big a hypocrite as the lsu fans who won't admit that at least part of the reason that they are mad is because that saban at bama may raise bama back to contender status.

 

You know what they say, 1,000 Atta Boys are wiped out by one "Oh Crap!".

I also seem to recall a certain ire being raised by the Bama nation when Fran bolted for Tex. A&M. And he didn't even go to an SEC west team!

I don't think you have any right to tell us we shouldn't hate satan. His lack of character has made his bed, and he has to LIE in it.

We didn't say "I will not be the Bama coach" and a few weeks later quit to become the Bama coach. He has earned his disrespect.