Saban. Great tenure. Screwed LSU in the end.

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  1. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    You mean you don't buy the conspiracy theory? :confused: :shock: :thumb:

    Kudos on the post, you should have made your own. :thumb: :thumb:
     
  2. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    I must be damn naive. I thought he handled all of this great, thought he was correct in talking to his players first without worrying about fans whining, thought he had all the right in the world to interview for and accept the Dolphins job, had all the right in the world to take his time and make the correct decision for himself. Just like the coach/coaches we hire go after will have the same right. Just like Saban had the right to pursue LSU when he was at MSU.

    I'm praying that in a few weeks people will get over being jilted and realize that Saban is not all of a sudden a horrible person. Coaches change jobs, it's an incredible market for guys that are great coaches.
     
  3. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    Actually I COULD respond but it's not really worth it. All it would do would be make you all mad and pissy. And it wouldn't change your mind or anyone's here who subscribes to your drama. Besides, you seem to have a much more worthy adversary in Spring tiger. I think he pretty much owned you in his post. Good day.
     
  4. SpringTiger

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    I don't know that. I added, though, that even if your theory is true, what Nick Saban did still put LSU in a better light. I don't think it was a surprise to any LSU fan that Saban had NFL aspirations! So what if Saban sent word to the Dolphins through his agent that he was interested in the job??? Perhaps, it went down that way, rather than the Dolphins initiating the contact. So??? That doesn't mean it wouldn't still be a difficult decision. And, even if it wasn't, what could Saban have done differently? The announcement did come in Florida because that is where he was after he was able to tell his players! Classy! Anything different would have been abhorable, and then you would have a case. And, don't forget WHY Saban is in Florida today! He took his team there to compete in yet another new years day game!!! How about focusing on the positive aspects of that?! You may consider me naive, but I don't believe this thing could have gone down any better, absent Saban deciding to stay.
     
  5. JSracing

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    it boils down to this......
    some people see the glass half empty.... some see it half full.
    some people just have to put a negative spin on everything.
     
  6. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    "I feel very fortunate to have two very good to have two strongly positive choices about what our future can be as a family. Our time at LSU has probably been the most rewarding one that we have had professionally as a coach over the last 30-some years, the significance of what we have accomplished, how much it has been appreciated, how many people it has affected has certainly made this the most self-gratifying experience I have had as a coach. But I've always been driven by challenges. I don't care whether it was little league baseball, the pony league to get to American Legion or whatever it was it was always the next challenge that makes driven people want to take advantage of the next opportunity, the next challenge...

    ..."Our time here (Orlando)...a bowl game is a time to reward our team, LSU's team and I don't want that to be tarnished in anyway shape or form by what the coach is going through or the coaches are going through relative to their experience. So from this time forward, I want to devote my time and our attention to our team having success in this bowl game and supporting them and being devoted to them to help them be successful in what they are trying to do here in this game against Iowa. So, I have agreed to go to Miami Monday afternoon and will do that, but other than that, our time and attention is going to be totally devoted this week to our team at LSU, our fans and our supporters who have been so wonderful in helping this program to be successful. So many people have contributed to the success of LSU, our administration, our athletic director Skip Bertman; there are so many people that have contributed to this. And the players themselves contributed to this opportunity that we have and that's appreciated. My loyalty to those players will never wane."

    Yep...just lip service...


    LSU coach Nick Saban finally turned pro Saturday, prompting a Christmas night celebration at the home of Miami Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga.

    "My wife and I high-fived each other," Huizenga said.

    The billionaire businessman anxiously watched from Fort Lauderdale as Saban held a televised news conference in Orlando to announce he would accept an offer to coach the Dolphins....

    ...He first interviewed for the job last week at his home in Baton Rouge, La., hosting Huizenga and president Eddie Jones for dinner. He met with them again Friday and said he agreed in principle to a deal.

    But Huizenga said he was unsure they had an agreement until the news conference.

    "If somebody held a gun to my head 10 minutes ago, I couldn't tell you," Huizenga said moments after Saban's announcement. "I had a good feeling, but I really did not know." Saban, 53, will coach LSU in the bowl game before taking over a long-proud Dolphins franchise enduring its worst season since the 1960s. He becomes the sixth coach in team history, and the fourth since Huizenga took over as owner in 1994.

    Again...what was it you said?
     
  7. JSracing

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    the fantasy YOU created. You should run for dog catcher you have a great way of turning words around.
     
  8. SpringTiger

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    It was even handed, FT, and I did try to point out the things you wrote with which I agree. But, the part I had to dispute was the "Screwed LSU in the end" part. I agree with all of the positive things that you said about Saban. I cannot agree that Saban screwed LSU in the end (or any other part). Even if I am naive!
     
  9. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Just like all of the people that got reports that he was staying. There was so much BS floating around it would have made the Mississippi appear to smell good. And of course everyone involved with this is a liar and all of those that believe any of it is stupid or naive. Thanks for the compliments.
     
  10. tigerjeffrey

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    here's the deal

    Nick Saban did a great job at LSU. I'm glad he was hired in 1999. I'm proud of what he and the team have accomplished, 2 SEC titles, 1 NC (and it ain't "co".)
    He has left the program in infinitely better shape than he found it. He has a right to pursue his professional goals. The way the move to the Dolphins was handled rubs me the wrong way, but I can get over it. I agree w/ Fightin Tiger, I don't buy the tortured decision scenario. Maybe I'm wrong. What I know though is that for the past several years, even as early as 2001, Saban's name was linked to NFL openings. My thought was, why have an agent if you're not constantly on the lookout for a better (in your view) gig? I tired of the media jerks (Peter King, etc. etc.) always perfunctorily mentioning his name at the drop of a hat as an NFL coaching candidate. But I have to come to realize that these guys were not making this stuff up, and that yes, Saban, through his agent, was sniffing around NFL jobs. One thing that does irritate me is Saban's irritation at the media for asking him about his interest in the NFL, and his statements to the effect "I don't know how those rumors get started..." Well I know how they got started ... by Jimmy Sexton!

    All I'm saying is, give the man credit for what he did for LSU, but let's not canonize him. I don't wish him ill will at Miami, but regardless of what happens he will land on his feet, so, I don't worry about him.

    Hire Rich Rodriguez!:geaux: :eek:ldskule: :helmet: :thumb:
     

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