Saban. Great tenure. Screwed LSU in the end.

well, i would hope that our next guy is so successful that he is always being offered better deals. i would love it if we could never keep coaches because we won so much that the nfl keeps stealing them. i dont hold it against coaches if they are ambitious, and our success is a stepping stone for them. our success is what matters. i want a coach, not a lifelong best buddy.

i am not sure if you are implying saban didnt have integrity. anyways, i do not think being ambitious means you do not have integrity. saban is certainly ambitious. the same charcter attributes that got us a national championship from saban are the ones that led him to leave.

 

Nick Saban left Michigan State because he would never have won the recruiting wars with Michigan, Ohio State, and others......

I don't think he screwed your school over at all.

 

HAHA, Really.

Well, I couldn't hope for any objectivity in here I suppose.

But believe me. Leaving a school the week before their biggest bowl game in 15 years and attempting to take the staff with him was not thought of as a very honorable exit.

As far as recruiting against Michigan and OSU. You may not know this, but you are recruiting against them too. That's a lame excuse from a....well forget it.

I will now retire from this board with 2 posts.

When you do get your next coach, try not to pick an a-hole and you won't have to be SHOCKED when he goes a-hole on you.

 

I have plenty of objectivity as I don't think Saban screwed us at all.

I also lived near Springfield, MI for several years (right next to WXYT-1270) and know several men that currently work there.

And yes...you are recruiting against them....and consistently losing.

 

Don't be sour because your sad spartans couldn't win jack while he was there. :hihi:

 

FightinTiger,

I thought I was fine if he departed but in all honesty i am also a bit pissed. I guess its the fact i expected more of Nick Saban, regardless if he owed LSU anything else or not, which in fact I am aware he does not.

I think the Louisiana folks who treated him as royalty then hinged on every word til late Christmas evening deserved more. Just out of respect for the fanbase and administration.

I disagree, however, that he is a prick. He is a good man with integrity but his loyalties lie wherever his next goal stands. I did get the impression he knew long before that he was going to the Dolphins and it was just a matter of playing the game for all its worth, which he did quite well. I think he played Skip and Huizenga like a cheap fiddle but that's what he is supposed to do.

I think he handled the situation about as well as could be expected, he probably told WH to play it up afterwards, as if he didnt know Nick would accept it, so to look better from a PR standpoint given the Mich State fiasco....just in case he ever had to return to the college ranks. But i do believe this deal was done, at least in Nick's mind, long ago minus a few parameters in the contract, that he knew he would eventually get.


His comments for weeks that, he has no interest in leaving LSU and is happy here, was coach speak and just puts it in perspective that its big business. Everyone is aware of that yet this just emphasizes it, that much more.

I may be wrong about all of it and I may have some displaced anger yet its how i truly feel as do you. I certainly won't apologize for it. Not sure why some have to be right or wrong about the situation. Your feelings do not needed to be validated on a message forum. I think you simply spoke from the heart and I can't tell you how to feel nor want to. We're all LSU fans and will continue to be. Nick was a great coach and moved on. Time for us to do the same.


Bring on Kirk Ferentz. I'd take him for 5 years til he moves on to the NFL.

3 straight New Years Bowls @ Iowa? excellent defensive/special teams coach=winner @ LSU.

 

I don't know about the rest of you, but nothing we write or say is going to change one measly iota what Nick Saban has done, or has planned to do all along. He's alluded to professional football aspirations, practically from the time he set foot on Tiger soil, so I'm not that surprised...disappointed, yes, but not surprised. I, for one, am thankful to have had him for as long as we have, and wish the guy all the best in his new Miami gig. I want people to say, when they see him in NFL limelight... "that's Nick Saban, the former LSU football coach that took the Tigers to a national championship and resurrected their football program in 5 short years."

Thanks, again, Nick.

:thumb:

 

Absolutely.

The only point that I would add to your comments is that I believe that his wife and daughter wanted to stay at LSU. In the end, however, they had no choice, but to agree move to Miami, because the breadwinner required it.

Saban should have stayed at LSU until his daughter finishes high school in 4 years. I could be wrong, but BR is a better place to raise a teenage girl than is Miami. There is less chance of having your daughter grow up to be like Paris Hilton, if she spends her high school years on BR, rather than Miami.

The bottom line is that Saban tore his wife and daughter away from a very wholesome, healthy and prosperous environment at LSU, and put them in an uncertain pressure-cooker situation in a HUGE city (Miami). There is NO WAY that Miami is a better place for a teenage girl than is Baton Rouge (although I'm sure that Nicholas Saban, Jr. is thrilled with the idea of Dad being the NC of the Miami Dolphins.)

 

Excellent Post.

Outstanding post.

This might be your best ever post.

 

It is, indeed, very well stated.