Saban Turned Down Again, This time by Jeff Brohm

I really want to know what makes Maj App qualified? How did he get so hot? What was he at Rice? Were they that good?

PLEASE explain this.

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My dog just told me Gene Stallings is coming back to be $aban's OC.
VERY reliable source.

 

I've said for several years now that the media doesn't get a lot of what they print correct. It's true Brohm was talked with, but the official offer wasn't tendered. Why? I haven't paid a lot of attn. to that, it just didn't concern me.

Just a supposition...when Saban talked with him, Brohm may have told him he wanted to stay at UL. Or, as has been the case with a few others Saban talked with, their ideals didn't fit (as in offensive schemes0>

Two points here. If you'll search, you'll see I've stated Fisher was offered, in included a buyout which Fisher didn't want, and the offer was withdrawn.

As to your second point...where's that damn horse?

Very true.

Shoot over to the roundtable and you'll see how this ended up...again, another horse that's as close to glue as Elmer.

If you'll search the offensive results for Rice, you'll see a pretty dynamic offense. He's coming to Bama as a QB coach, with input into the passing game. (Very well may handle WR's as well.)

Pendry will have two of the up and comers in the business in the run and pass game. (RB coach Burns, Clemson)

Applewhite...opens Tx up a bit. Burns, good recruiter that has ties in Louisana.

 

Red, let me add this one point.

"Saban Fever?" No, wouldn't go that far. Seeing a coach at the helm that will insist on things that Shula and DuBose didn't? Yes. Able to handle the pressures that fRan and Price couldn't? You bet ya.

Looking over his history (W's and L's) every time he's taken over a program the W/L record improved by 3 W's in the first year. So, I don't see it as unrealistic to see 8-4, 9-3 next season.

It'll take, as exampled by his first couple of years at LSU, on defense he has to have his type of players for his system to work. His "type" of DT's and LB's....we don't have a lot of those on campus. There are some young LB's on campus that can be molded/developed...a trait that this past staff didn't have...with the exception of some of the players we had in the LB position. Coaching.

I understand what I hear from rivals about this hire...but, I can also look at it from a different perspective than just emotionally. Heck, I have personally had people I've had contracts with that have asked "are you talking to so and so about a contract with them?" My answer, "No, I'm devoted to this job." If I'd said no comment, the environment would have just bottomed out with the employees I had under me.

That's not an excuse, but a situation I've been in...of course, when he made those statements at Miami I knew differently...or, rather, knew of the interest and knew if we waited, talks could become serious.

 

Terry, read the thread title, and then read what you just posted. WHAT"S THE DIFFERENCE? You say an official offer wasn't tendered to Brohm, and ask why. Then you answer your own question by acknowledging that Brohm "may" have told him he wanted to stay at UL. By all other accounts, that's exactly what he told him. That's called being turned down. Fisher didn't like the offer, and said no. That, too, is called being turned down. No matter how you try and spin it, Saban got TURNED DOWN. Get over yourself.

 

i'm not certain that Alabama's pursuit of Jeff Brohm was really all that serious to begin with, and I seriously doubt that Brian Brohm's decision was in any way related to JR's decision to enter the draft. In fact, it likely had much more to do with brother Jeff's decision to remain as UL's QB coach and passing game coordinator.

it's important to remember that Brian is the fourth member of the Brohm family to play for UL .... they own that town. It would've taken something much more attractive than a lateral-position move to break the Brohm-family loyalty to UL .

 

There is a difference, especially with position coaches, when it comes to an offer and discussing schemes.

If you think about it, it's about like an interview in the real world. IF the future employeer offers you the job, but you turn it down, that's a real offer. If you talk to the employeer, and he doesn't offer the job, it isn't a real offer. The first thing anyone would talk about is what you can offer. IF they don't like it, you don't get the offer.

Since Saban did talk to Brohm, it is pretty clear he had interest and was curious as to what the job would entail. If Saban didn't offer him the job, there was a break down at some point.

It's a fact that coaches in today's age of football will put their name "in the hat" in order to solidify their position at their current employeer. Perhaps this was Brohm's move.

I look at this logically. If Saban didn't offer the job officially, there wasn't an offer. It very well may have been a situation where Saban wanted to talk to him about the WR/ RB position coach...which were the only positions left...Brohm said he wanted the OC position, which was already filled.

I don't know the specifics of the conversation...haven't asked or done any research into it.

Offer? No. At some point interest from both parties? Evident.

 

You just cannot fathom a circumstance where during the discussions about what the job entailed, Brohm said, "Ya' know, I don't think this is for me. I think I'll turn this down". You cannot imagine that perhaps is was Brohm that didn't like what Saban had to offer. Listen, no matter what the sticking point was, SABAN GOT TURNED DOWN AGAIN, THIS TIME BY JEFF BROHM!

Couldn't help but notice, by the way, that you had no answer for what I said about JF turning him down.:thumb:

 

That's because, I've made comments about that already.

It seems, we are just looking at this with different perspectives. I used an example of a real world situation. And, that was the case, they way it has been relayed to me.

Until someone receives an official offer, they haven't been offered.

 

None of this has anything to do with the thread title. "Saban turned down again, This time by Jeff Brohm". (I take it from your post that you're trying to defend Terry. I don't disagree with the things you commented on here, just that it isn't what I was challenging Terry on, and has nothing to do with this topic)