SCROTUM I mean SCOTUS

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LaSalleAve, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Don't shop at Wal-Mart. The only repercussions are that you will pay more for the same items elsewhere. But that's your choice. Don't pay your taxes. The government that LaSalle loves so much will seize your assets and throw you in prison. That is also your choice
     
  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Oh the free market myth. Yeah ok.
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    That's funny, show me where I said I love the government. Oh yeah you can't.
     
  4. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    You realize why the market isn't free right? It is government intrusion that retards it. And when more government intrusion further erodes free market practices, you are ok with it.

    You love it when government makes evil corporate bastards provide things they don't want to provide. You hate it when even an extremely narrow subset is exempted from the government intrusion. Then you have the gall to complain about markets not being free.
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Government had to intrude. until the corporations took over the government this country flourished. Now we are where we are because they are one in the same, the government sucks because the fucking corporations run it.
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    So the corporations run the government and are making themselves do things they don't want to do? You have reached the point of nonsense.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nope, you can just move to a country where they don't have income taxes if you don't want to pay your share.

    United Arab Emirates
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    Oman
    Kuwait
    Bahrain
    Cayman Islands
    Bermuda
    Bahamas
    Saudi Arabia

    Of course they mostly have no liberty, no religious freedom, and a very high cost of living. Send us a postcard.
     
  8. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    So your response to increased restrictions on freedom is to suggest that moving to a place with even less freedom? How is that a good option? Whatever happened to liberty?

    Sure our liberty is being continually eroded, but check this... we are still a little better than a list of shitty places.
     
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  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    It's taking them a long time to unravel the work done by our predecessors when this was a great country. You're just blind. Now Supreme Court rules that corporations are people and you don't think this government is run by corporations? You are too smart for that or your conservative mentality just can't grasp it.
     
  10. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Do you think that massive corporate influence on government is something new? Have you ever heard of John D. Rockerfeller? Andrew Carnegie? Cornelius Vanderbilt? John Jacob Astor? Andrew Mellon? They and others we now call "The Robber Barons." Today we would call them "Captains of Industry." They were people but they owned and ruled corporations. They employed millions but you would likely be better off working at a low level job at Wal-Mart than working for one of the Robber Baron's corporations. There were no laws to protect workers. There were no unions.

    On the positive side John D Rockerfeller may be responsible for saving the whales:

    Libertarian reporter and free-market supporter John Stossel has frequently argued the term robber baron is a misnomer.

    They weren't robbers, because they didn't steal from anyone, and they weren't barons—they were born poor. ...

    Vanderbilt got rich by pleasing people. He invented ways to make travel and shipping cheaper. He used bigger ships, faster ships, served food onboard. He cut the New York–Hartford fare from $8 to $1. That gave consumers more than any "consumer group" ever has. ...

    Rockefeller got rich selling oil. First competitors and then the government called him a monopolist, but he wasn't. At the time he had well over a hundred competitors. No one was forced to buy his oil. Rockefeller enticed people to buy it by selling it for less. That's what his competitors hated. His finding cheaper ways to get oil from the ground to the gas pump made life better for millions. Working-class people, who used to go to bed when it got dark, could suddenly afford fuel for lanterns, so they could stay up and read at night. Rockefeller's greed might have even saved the whales, because when he lowered the price of kerosene and gasoline, he eliminated the need for whale oil. The mass slaughter of whales suddenly stopped.[
     

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