SEC Expansion?

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  1. wjray

    wjray .-.. ..- -.- .

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    In general I like it too. But I don't know if it'll work. The way I see it, with four divisions, a team (Team A) would play the other three in their division, plus the four teams in another division, plus the two teams that finished in the same place as Team A in their divisions. That comes to 9 games. Then there would have to be a "divisional" playoff to decide which 2 teams make the championship. So 11 SEC games a season potentially.

    Or only play one other division team that finished in the same place as Team A the year before. So that's 8 SEC games plus potentially two.

    It's got possibilities.
     
  2. Kal-El012

    Kal-El012 Founding Member

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    I guess the basketball rivalry between Duke and North Carolina weighs pretty heavy, and the tarheels would never re-enter the SEC because of it. So NC State would be the next logical choice along with the Hokies.

    Wonder if the Hokies would then be able to expand their stadium? It would be the smallest wouldnt it?
     
  3. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    VT's football stadium is about the same size as Kentucky's, and both of them have bigger football stadiums than NC State, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vanderbilt, and Arkansas' War Memorial in Little Rock

    NC State's football stadium is about the same size as Ole Miss and Miss State
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It ain't just the stadium, think TV contracts. Virginia and North Carolina have huge television markets. Washington DC is a top-10 market. The SEC already has states with 33 of the top 100 TV markets with . . .

    5. Dallas-Ft. Worth
    8. Atlanta
    10. Houston
    13. Tampa/St. Pete
    16. Miami/Ft. Lauderdale
    17. Orlando/Daytona
    21. St. Louis
    29. Nashville
    31. Kansas City
    36. Greensville/Spartanburg
    37. San Antonio
    38. West Palm Beach
    40. Birmingham
    47. Jacksonville
    48. Memphis
    49. Austin
    50. Louisville
    53. New Orleans
    56. Little Rock/Pine Bluff
    59. Knoxville
    60. Mobile/Pensacola
    62. Ft. Myers/Naples
    63. Lexington
    65. Charleston/Huntington
    74. Springfield, MO
    78. Paducah/St. Girardeau
    79. Columbia
    82. Huntsville/Decatur
    84. Shreveport
    86. Chattanooga
    90. Jackson
    94. Waco/Temple/Bryan
    95. Baton Rouge
    96. Savannah
    98. El Paso
    99. Charleston
    100. Ft Smith/Fayetteville

    With Virgina and North Carolina the SEC could add . . .

    9. Washington, DC
    24. Charlotte
    27. Raleigh-Durham
    28. Greensboro/Winston-Salem
    67. Roanoke/Lynchburg
    92. Tri-Cities TN/VA/NC
     
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  5. b_leblanc

    b_leblanc That's just my game...

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    Yep. They don't want to "expand" in a state that they already have a presence in, unless the money makes sense.
     
  6. Tiger_fan

    Tiger_fan Veteran Member

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    if you look at the population of the SEC states:
    (25,674,681 -- Texas)
    19,057,542 -- Florida
    9,815,210 -- Georgia
    6,403,353 -- Tennesseee
    (6,010,688 -- Missouri)
    4,802,740 -- Alabama
    4,679,230 -- South Carolina
    4,574,836 -- Louisiana
    4,369,356 -- Kentucky
    2,978,512 -- Mississippi
    2,937,979 -- Arkansas

    states like North Carolina and Virginia would make good additions, maybe even Maryland
    9,656,401 -- North Carolina
    8,096,604 -- Virginia
    5,828,289 -- Maryland

    but, look at North Carolina -- they have four ACC teams: UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest... so what fraction of the state and its markets are you getting by just adding 1 of those 4?
    #24 Charlotte, NC
    #27 Raleigh-Durham
    #46 Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem
    #92 Tri-Cities, TN-NC-VA

    as for Virginia, they just have Virginia and Virginia Tech, what fraction do you get by adding just 1 of those 2? Virginia Tech is all the way out on the west side of the state, out in the mountains, probably doesn't as much attention in the big markets on the east side by the coast
    #43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News
    #58 Richmond-Petersburg
    #67 Roanoke-Lynchburg — Virginia Tech
    #92 Tri-Cities, TN-NC-VA

    as for Maryland, they have Maryland and that's it, and that give you two huge markets:
    #9 Washington, DC (U of Maryland is in the D.C. metro area)
    #26 Baltimore

    as for Georgia, that's a bigger state than either North Carolina or Virginia, and they only have Georgia and Georgia Tech, so why not lock that whole state down by adding Georgia Tech, who is right in the middle of one of the biggest media markets in the country?
    #8 Atlanta -- Georgia Tech
    #96 Savannah

    and South Carolina only has South Carolina and Clemson, so why not lock down that whole state and add it's biggest media market by adding Clemson?
    #36 Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson -- Clemson
    #79 Columbia, SC
    #99 Charleston, SC

    of course, Florida is a monster state almost as big as Texas, why not lock that whole state down by adding Florida State and Miami, both of whom bring large national fanbases with them, no doubt? esp Miami, who will give you a big presence in the #16 and #38 media markets? gotta remember that the U of Florida is all the way in north Florida, much further away from south Florida and it's huge markets than north Louisiana is from LSU
    #13 Tampa-St. Petersburg
    #16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale
    #19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne
    #38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce
    #47 Jacksonville, FL
    #60 Mobile-Pensacola
    #62 Ft. Myers-Naples
     
  7. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Tiger Fan, most what you said makes a lot of sense. The only thing that I would disagree with is I think Va Tech would bring in a lot of the D.C. Market and I'm not sure if bringing Ga Tech in would mean anything to Savannah folks but it would help get more of the Atlanta area.

    And I definitely agree about NC St not bringing many fans.
     
  8. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    If the DC market is coveted, we should have gotten West Virginia in the SEC while we had the chance last year.
     
  9. b_leblanc

    b_leblanc That's just my game...

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    Think they would've brought their couches with them on road games to burn? :D
     
  10. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    ...along with all that shine !!!

    There's just something about drunk football fans, couches and matches that just goes together. :cool:
     

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