So can we put the "talent" conversation to rest

That 2009 class was awesome. Potentially 6, but more probably 4 1st round draft picks from that class. Mo & Brockers already in, with Mingo, Mongomery, Minter & Reid, depending on team needs. I'm guessing 2 fall to the 2nd round, with Randle already there.

More on DL in the SEC.......

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2013/sec-defensive-linemen-factory/

I think it's necessary to use both. The number manipulation cuts both ways. Example, lets just take a 10 game season vs. a 13 game season. 80% of 10 games would be 8 wins vs. 80% of 13, which would be 10.

But Tulane was a charter member of the SEC. They even played in the Rose Bowl once, for sure.

Tulane has not been a member of the SEC in the time frame I referenced. I know I'm old, just turned a year older today, but I ain't THAT old!

And it is NOT necessary to use both. 80% = 80%. Name the other LSU coach that won 80% of his games, that actually coached for a season or more.

I wait...

I DID experience the Chollie Mac era. I did not experience the Dietzel era obviously. But the point is, the one people sell short is MILES. And I'm not suggesting you do. Or even Tiga. But it's really simple to just use winning %. You saying Chollie Mac had it rough because of being in the same era as Bear? I agree. Miles is in the same era as Saban, who is in the middle of an even greater period of success than Bear Bryant ever achieved at Bama. Miles had to deal with Florida thru some good years with Meyer and Tebow. He went thru the Cam year at Auburn. The SEC is damn sure stronger as a whole than it was in the 70s or 80s. Yet Miles still wins 80%, while Chollie Mac did not. Arnsparger did not. Archer did not. SABAN did not.

These are the Golden Years at LSU, some don't see this.

I just pulled that 80% out of the air and have no idea what ANY LSU coaches' winning percentages are. By "both" I meant percentage AND "real numbers" as in number of games.

Oh, and I'm right, we do need both. 80% of 100 is > 80% of 10. Capiche?

You, like me, are an English person and numbers escape you/us (other than daily limits). It's okay.

yep, these last 8 years under Miles have been one of the great eras that any fanbase in the history of college football has gotten to experience under one coach. it's truly a blessing.

Clm is right near the top of sec football win%. Win a nc last year and you could argue he's the best sec coach ever. Yes he's that close.