So Russia is taking over the Ukraine

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    OK so what if the Ukraine fires the 1st shot? What then?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    So what? It's their country and they have an invader to expel. They aren't going to invade Russia.
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    Its not like Russia doesn't have assets in Crimea. They do somewhat have a claim to protect those interest.
     
  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Senior Member

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    Read your history and current news not published by Pravda the Russians signed a treaty in 1994 guaranteeing Ukrainian sovereignty over Crimea. This in order for Ukraine to give up the nucs they had from Soviet times. There was no protection required as this was a manufactured issue. There was no threat to the ethnic Russians living in the Crimea.
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    More baseless claims. You poorly assume way to much again.
     
  6. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    So far it just seems like Russia is protecting its interests in Crimea. While a conflict between Russia and Ukraine would undoubtedly be won by the Russians, this is not Georgia here. Russia will walk away with a much bloodier nose and possibly some serious credibility in terms of its military might.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, you are being absurd. The treaty is on record and has been mentioned previously. Yes, there are Russian bases in the Crimea but they are guests of Ukraine as per the treaty that the Russian just broke. Russia bases have not been threatened by the Ukraine. It is a manufactured issue by Russia. The real issue is that the Russian-leaning leader of Ukraine fled his office and went to Russia. The remaining Ukrainian government is pro-Western and Putin is trying to intimidate them into putting his man back in office.
     
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  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    You misunderstand Red. Winston implied I believed in only read Russian propaganda.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ahhh. I did not assume that. It's important to read the propaganda to read the Russians. But it cannot be trusted.
     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    Oh I know, but it is interesting to see their mindset. Clearly Putin has his reasons and those that support him, feel the same. I also think there are those who disagree with the West.
     

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