I did miss that episode, if it was Kanye i wouldn't have watched it anyway. I disagree with you though. Obama is in year 2 and has been drawn with Hitler mustaches, called a socialist, a marxist, has been associated with Hamas (albeit that was by his own party). Bush's administration were responsible for the death of innocents. I hate to say this because i think alot of people in the military would think that i am bashing them, but i am not, they did what they were ordered to do. We could have totally skipped Iraq.
He will if his plans fail as miserably as Bush's did and he will have deserved it. But Bush did not get all that vitriol in his first year before he started screwing up. Obama has caught hell despite having no comparable failures. Pure politics.
Well lets see, if his dad was a marxist, http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_eastafrica.html and his mom was a marxist and they both left him to be raised by his grandparents who were, hhmm lets see what is the term, oh yeah marxist, Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama - Telegraph then he goes off to college and by his own admission, his own words "I sought out marxist professors YouTube - From Barack Obama's own words - He Searched out Marxist (Communist) Professors in college, admited he attended socialist conferences, Why Did Obama Attend Socialist Conferences? | The Weekly Standard then he goes to a church who is led by a marxist for 20 years. The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology - The Acton Institute I'm not done yet, then he surrounds himself with the likes of Jim Wallis, Van Jones, Ron Bloom and Andy Stern (all I might add avid socialist/marxist) then just what are we supposed to call him? The second coming of Regan? I don't think so. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.
My wife is a woman of color, don't know her exact race. She is raised by white people, hangs out with white people, is married to a white guy, has a white daughter, doesn't make her white. And if you said i wasn't the second coming of Reagan i would take that as a compliment.
Bullsh!t! This from Mr."Don't tell me what I think"? I see and hear exactly what I see and hear. I don't just imagine that Obama is an arrogant MFer. If you see a kind and benevolent "Dear Leader", more power to you. I see a cocky smartass punk who is way out of his league.
You call this proof that his dad was a Marxist? You didn't read it did you? :grin: It's a paper, written by Obama's father, that is a critique of a Kenyan government paper entitled "African Socialism and Its Applicability to Planning in Kenya". Nowhere in the paper does he promote Marxism. In fact, let me quote from page 28, "It is interesting to note that the paper recognizes failures of both Marxist socialism and laissez-faire in solving these problems." Kenya is a quasi-socialist country, like most of Africa, and Obama's father approved of African socialism, which includes free enterprise, . . . but not Marxism, which is something different. Marxism rejects capitalism and advocates proletarian revolution, which African socialism does not advocate. Plus Obama's father left him when he was two and had no real influence on him growing up. Obama's mom was a liberal but there is no evidence that she was a Marxist. The conservative blogs accuse her and her parents of belonging to a "radical Seattle church", which turns out to be a bunch of typically bland Unitarians. and a long list of other things that he later became disillusioned with. Read the book, this is taken out of context. Uhh, that would be . . . attended lectures at his college union, some of which were talks on socialism. Wright may be a kook and a racist, but your source offers no evidence at all that he is a Marxist. It's just some guys opinion that black "victimhood" is the equivalent of "Marxist victimhood". Obama, in the book you just cited, said, "I reject a politics that is based solely on racial identity, gender identity, sexual orientation, or victimhood generally. " People believe what they want to believe and few dig to get all the facts or to be skeptical of sources with an agenda.
Hook, line, and sinker. It has nothing to do with what color he is, hell it doesnt even have anything to do with where he was born or if his parents were white, half white, kangaroos or parrots. It has to do with "what" he was raised as. I'm sure you know who will be here soon talking about spew and bird spit soup and rush limbaugh aghhhhh and how it doesn't matter if he crapped gold cuff links he would still be blasted. Fact is, well it is what it is and he be a socialist. The facts are there and he really cant deny it. Drink up buttercup, there is plenty of kool aid to go around. You can certianly have mine.
not talking about his color. What i was saying is that just because he was raised by parents who read socialist material, and had socialist friends doesn't make him a socialist. Hell i try to listen to Rush every day, but i damn sure don't agree with him. I think if anyone has drunk the kool aid too much it's the right. Hell, Rush was on the radio today bitching because Obama said his favorite childhood baseball team was the A's. Obama could come out and cut taxes across the board, fix the deficit, invade every country the hillbilly right wants to invade, send black people back to africa, mexicans back to mexico, wear 6 flag pins on his eyeballs, and whistle the star spangled banner out of his ass, and the right would still make up some crap about why he is a communist.
And there it is, the apologist. Just when did he become "disillusioned"? He has been engulfed in it his entire life. This is the equivalant of Otis Campbell saying he used to drink but he is not an alcoholic anymore. Give me a break. Well maybe not, but when the parents hand him off to the grandparents who hand him off to a noted socialist (senior rouge can't deny that one) and then you look at what follows in his life. EVERY SWINGING RICHARD that he has ever called a "mentor" or looked up to has been socialist. He then emerges in chicago where that crap runs like water; now you tell me, what do you think his political base is founded in? It is all he has ever known. On at the same time as Rome so the fat man loses out on this one. With a slight bit of editing I have turned this into something that I could at least listen to. I'm not saying I'd be ready to vote for him, but he would get my attention.:wink:
