Socialized medicine is for suckers

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  1. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    Cuba actually does have a better healthcare system than us.
     
  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I've said it many times and I just don't see how I'm wrong on this, the problem with the US health care system is that it is fully dependent on insurance. I see no reason why insurance should be involved if I go to my doctor for anything that's not an emergency. That's like using my car insurance to pay for an oil change. I had this conversation with a doctor once. My premise was, why can't I walk into your office, tell you what's wrong, and you tell me how much it will cost to get me healthy, without insurance being involved. I might as well have asked him to imagine he was a socket wrench. The idea of being able to determine his own prices was absolutely foreign to him.
     
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  3. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    Pre-f’ng-cisely!!!!

    Insurance has morphed into a pre-payment financial model. Health insurance, as is, does not protect against unexpected loss.

    It will a) never work and b) will always be expensive since premiums must pay cost of services as well as administrative costs and profit (16 - 20%).

    I could write volumes in responding and amplifying the great post by @mctiger, but I will spare you!
     
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  4. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    Obamacare was a wealth transfer scheme. Insurance is/was tangential and/or a convenient mechanism.
     
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  5. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    that and with no competition, there is no reason to restrain costs, so prices soar.
     
  6. watson1880

    watson1880 Founding Member

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    Cuban's system is two tiered and the top tier still sucks.
     
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  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I’ll take Amsterdam
     
  8. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    To add to what @mctiger said there are growing numbers of cash only clinics, doctors and hospitals that don’t take insurance. With these there is mounting evidence that total out of pocket expenses operating on a cash basis is significantly less expensive than with the insurance model. Most importantly this covers middle and lower class households not wealthy. It has crossed the country from Compton in LA east.
    Competition keeps cost down too.
     
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  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    @Winston1 are those the concierge programs I keep hearing about?

    I know they advertise for those here and I have heard great things about them.
     
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  10. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    Of course, but we have a 2 tier system and we are not a 3rd world country. Their entire system is preventative medicine where as ours is treatment. For their mortality rates to rival and exceed ours, that tells you something.
     

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