Some baseball players getting scholarship taken away....

reviewing scholarships, playing time, performance, etc. on a yearly basis is common. i know this is how it works at tulane also. (i think i heard that scholarship was one of the factors in why steven porlier left tulane for oklahoma, not just the not being able to get into the starting rotation.) with being able to transfer and not sit out, there has been a flexibility for both the schools and the players.

with the new transfer rules though, a lot of that flexibility is going to go out the window. the real problem here is the limited number of scholarships allowed for baseball. it is freakin ridiculous. it guarantees that no kid is going to get a full scholarship. imo, this is why a lot of kids go pro instead of to college. not having a full scholarship can mean not being able to attend college for some. freakin ridiculous! college baseball stays phucked over by that rule.

and even though it doesn't play a part in this thread, don't get me started on the later start date rule beginning next year. (freakin yankees.)

 

I had no idea that was done in baseball but, if I were a recruit, I'd definitely look at how often it occured as part of my decision after narrowing down my schools of interest.

Though I don't like the practice, I can see where a coach would do it -especially a first year coach coming in and being handed a team who he didn't recruit, kids on a roster of teams that hadn't been successful, etc. cause it is about the "W", and college fans don't give much credence to "Re-building" these days, they expect a coach to come in and win. I found our fans to be very understanding and patient-minded of the situation through this transition.

The play on the field goes back to rapport with players, chemistry, etc. I'll even go back one step further, and the beginning process- recruiting goes back to the same. We saw that with JM's relationship with Ken Norton in the football world- same reason we got RP to LSU when Saban wasn't going to.

I heard JT Wise's play was an issue within the ranks. There were some who felt, though he was leaving a lot to be desired, and I quote, "Nothing was going to change" in the eyes of the staff.

Here's my question to anyone who follows baseball since I don't, if his "Play" was not up to par, why was he not pulled? 1/ Was the the best we had and had to make-do? 2/ PM was giving him every opportunity to "Prove" himself? Or what do you make of the situation?

I have no idea and only know the little I do from a parent of one of the players and we all know how skewed that can be. :wink:

 

the policy is crap. it should be guaranteed for 4 yrs with conditions. one of those conditions not being "well, sorry, we were wrong. you are not good enough". its way too subjective and exposed to new coaches cleaning house, which is probably the worst reason. "i dont like to bunt and run as much as the last coach, so, although you are great at it, you cant hit home runs. good bye have a nice life."

dont see a problem with coaches and players coming to mutual agreements to move on though. how many of the current players did this i dont know.

academic scholarships have conditions, but they are not very subjective.

 

Good post. It explains a lot and makes sense. I did not realize this was the last year the players in question could transfer. If that is the case, it is good to see Mainieri is not simply pulling the scholarship rug out from under them, as I originally thought. That does make a difference.

 

I did not realize that. I thought they had full, 4-year scholarships.

 

try to pretend that they are student-athletes

and.....transvestites have always been discriminated against, doesnt mean its right.

 

Transvestites? How do transvestites fit into this thread?

 

they don't fit into this thread, they were just on his mind

 

nope. with the abortion that is title ix, non-relevant sports for unathletic white kids now get more schollies than even baseball. 11.7 schollies total for the entire baseball team.

no kid at LSU has ever had a full ride in baseball as far as i know. maybe ben mcdonald but that would be it.

this is why schools like rice, tulane, baylor and vandi can compete against the big boys in baseball. a full ride or half scholly to a top pro prospect is worth tons more than an education at one of your powerhouse football schools such as LSU.

Luckily, LSU has the TOPPS program which somehwhat balances out the NCAA stupidity. then again the new roster limit hurts the topps advantage.

the new rule is still 11.7 but now you can only distribute it amongst 27 total players. before you could spread it however you wanted amongst any number. roster sizes are now 35 as opposed to unlimited.

division III baseball just got a lot stronger. parity will be even more rampant.