1. ouch!.. 15 yards, unnecessary roughness

    it's not my fault, I'm the victim :(
  2. Yes, my friend... you are the victim.
    Some judge somewhere today ruled all this lock down stuff is unconstitutional. Wonder if there are any ramifications for football?
    Also heard the PAC is looking at logistics to start it up. Maybe, it's coming soon....
  3. story today mentioned mid/late november
  4. Still too late for bowls and playoffs
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  6. so lying is ok to achieve political ends? for example pretending to be christian so you can grow the economy for the poor
  7. Show me a politician that doesn't lie and I'll show you a politician that can't get elected to dogcatcher
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  8. your situational ethical stances are interesting.... hit a girl ok, angst at a politician, not ok....
  9. i didnt make a statement i asked a question. i have taken no stance and for all you know i want every politician to lie at all times
  10. obviously.

    a friend of mine who is athiest decided he wanted to go into politics while he was at law school at stanford. he started tellin everyone that he is a christian. i was like "you are telling me this bullshit? i am not the voters. you are telling me you think jesus died for your sins? the lying starts this early with politcal ambition". and i guess it does. you have to start lying early and often.

    but is it worth it, the lying, for power? is it the ethical thing to do to be a lying piece of shit just to rule over others? maybe so if your leadership is a net benefit?