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  1. LSU Engineer

    LSU Engineer Unnamed Source

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    If they are good enough coaches to teach a player to go against a football player's natural instinct to get a first down, how come they can't coach him to stop making poor decisions and never throw the ball away. A competitor's instinct is to get the first down and continue the drive. The guy afraid of getting hit throws the ball to avoid getting hit. If I were his teammate that play would not resonate well with me. Flynn would have lowered his head and gotten the first down.
     
  2. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    I've seen his YouTube vids and all I've got to say is, "eh". He's good for a HS running back but he doesn't come close to putting up the crazy figures that most five star QB recruits get...running or passing. I saw J-Lee's HS vids, too. 7,000 yards passing and close to 70 TD's in his last two seasons...and now look at him.

    Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right. But look up RS's HS stats and compare them to Perrilloux's...or Tebows...or Vince Young's...or Terrelle Pryor's...almost any high-profile dual-threat college QB.

    By the numbers, he's not in the same league.............yet.
     
  3. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    Flynn had a Ryan Perrilloux standing on the sideline. And his problem with throwing the ball away is, IMO, an extention of his success in HS. I think he's STILL learning - or trying to, anyway - when he needs to throw it away...when his arm alone CAN'T make the play. J-Russ had the same problem...but he was a lot better at getting away with it. I always knew he was walking a fine line...a baby's breath this way or that and he's getting picked dozens of times in his carreer. But I digress.

    At any rate, the play in question should never have been called. Why is CS not getting the short-yardage calls?? Isn't that why he's here???
     
  4. LSU Engineer

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    I can't remember him once throwing the ball away. On that play - how could J. Lee be thinking about the backup QB standing on the sideline, he should be thinking about getting a first down. 9 games into your redshirt freshman season, he should not still get the "Freshman" get out of jail free card. He has not shown any maturation as a QB this season. In fact I think his accuracy has only gotten worse. He has terrible foot work, locks on to his primary reciever, doesn't recognize blitzes, throws off his back foot falling away even when he has no pressure. The coaches don't get a free pass either, I would have run Charles Scott as well. I am serious when I say the only passes I would allow him to throw are fades or shovel passes.
     
  5. Bamalumni1

    Bamalumni1 Founding Member

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    Right, the only reason LSU lost was unforced mistakes by coaches & players. Bama wasn't even there, didn't hit anybody, didn't make any passes, didn't make any runs, didn't hit anybody, nothing. All Lee's picks were because he threw badly, not because Bama had good coverages, knocked a ball loose, nothing like that.

    Come on, get real. EVERY game, the losing team makes mistakes that contribute to the loss, but the winning team also does a lot of good things that beat the losing team. You didn't lose to some unranked team you should've beaten just because you gave the game away. You lost to the #1 team in the country because they did the things that made them #1.
     
  6. KTeamLSU

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    Did you even watch the game?

    Your team earned ONE true Touchdown in regulation... that's it. Our QB gave you the game, so don't go pumping up your average and very lucky Alabama team. Your boys made a few good plays, but for the most part, our QB stinks and has just about every game this season. Alabama won... hooray, but your team still isn't that good, and definitely not Top 10 worthy. Alabama is a pretender... I just wish we had a QB who didn't suck so we could have showed the country truly how average you guys are (except Julio Jones, he's a beast).
     
  7. Bamalumni1

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    I'm not denying Lee played badly and that it helped Bama. My point was that he wasn't the only factor and his mistakes weren't unforced in most cases. Bama limiting your running attack put the game more on Lee's shoulders. Coverage schemes and db play, as well as pressure on him by the rush were a big part of Lee's errors too. You weren't playing a weak defense and Lee just handed them the win. Bama has one of the best D's in the country and that showed. He didn't lose against the weak D's you played earlier this year, so don't think Bama's play wasn't a factor today.

    As for your opinion that Bama's a pretender and not a top 10 team, you're being silly now. That sounds like something an Auburn fan would say, not an LSU fan. NOBODY goes 10-0 in the SEC without being a good team.
     
  8. LSUgradin66

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    How quickly forgotten is a late fumble leading to a W in Tuscaloosa last year and the fist pumping we all saw and participated in. To describe Alabama as lucky needs to be tempered with how lucky things worked out last year.

    It's disappointing to see the words "in regulation" once again. Not top 10 worth is a joke and embarrassing. I suspect you've been dialing Alabama cell phone numbers.

    Let's not forget the opportunities the Tigers had that were given, as you choose to put it.
     
  9. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I was thinking that as well, but there was a big Bama player I saw on the replay that looked like probably would have stopped Lee. This is one reason Jefferson should be played next week. Lee is no threat to run and I question whether he could have made a first down on that play, which is in part due to his lack of athleticism.

    Think Bama was crowding the line?
     
  10. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    These things are true, you guys have a solid defense, but Lee has been struggling all year. Lee stunk it up yesterday and his mistakes helped out Bama a lot. Quite a lot. You guys were good enough to capitalize and your defense WAS able to slow down our running game.

    I'd say top 10, but both Florida and Georgia looked more impressive against LSU. I question your #1 rating, though it's hard to rate an unbeaten SEC team much lower. I expect you guys will get more than you can handle against UF, but you guys have a chance and Saban is a strong coach. We'll see when the championship game rolls around.
     

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