News Stephan Hawking Declares There is No God

How the hell can you call someone who does believe in God, objective at all?

 

Well, I might be wrong about what objective means but to me it means neutral....

The guy who believes in God isn't objective either. He is an advocate for his position. Just because he is an advocate for his position does not mean he is wrong though. Defense attorneys can be correct and their client could be innocent. Or not.

Stephan Hawking seems objective because he is a scientist but he has stepped outside his field and has become an advocate. If there were a car crash and a scientist and priest were eye witnesses with conflicting testimony would you necessarily believe the scientist? Just because of his profession? I hope not.

Hawking can tell me how far away the galaxy is but his ability to speak intelligently on the existence of God is a bit much. He is just a human being. His argument against the existence of God is based on observations of nature and math equations. Ok, I get it. Now, let me see the next witness.

Give me a doctor. What has his experience been with life, death, prayers answered, diseases cured, etc.

What makes people think Hawking's opinion means more than the doctor's? It doesn't. If anything, it means less plus the fact that his mind is so warped by his ego I would throw out his testimony completely. He has no basis for denying the existence of God based on science. Zero. When did he complete his exhaustive scientific analysis of Justice? Or Love? They don't fall under his jurisdiction.

What they are really saying is that they are smarter than the old shepherds running around in the desert way back when. Well, I call b.s. on that. I don't think many people have a correct understanding of what those people accomplished.

 

god might be material. you dont know. thats my point. no one does. of course you want to be in a room with likeminded people. however it doesnt change any facts, it just reaffirms what you want to hear.

 

God was on LSUs side tonight

 

ive always thought there is a higher power on les' side. this game certainly doesnt dispel that.

 

You need to brush up on your theology. Nobody asserts that God is material, not even Stephan Hawking. It's not even a debated point.
God, if he exists is a spirit. Which is one reason Christianity makes such a good case. They are the only ones that make the claim that God is Trinitarian. Nobody else has such sophisticated explanation of what God is.

 

maybe my god is. i dont care what anyone says. see, i have faith and thats all thats needed.

 

Now you're just being hard-headed, but whatever. I don't have a problem with your position, it's your business.

I remember hearing these arguments when I was younger and somehow the question came up about God/all-powerful and whether he could make a four sided triangle.

I thought that was a damn good question so I repeated it later around someone who was pretty intelligent....he looked at me and said flatly that no, God could not make a four sided triangle. Then he said that's only because the definition of triangle means it has three sides, not four. Then he told me to stop being so stupid with my use of language. And he was right. Distorting the definitions of words doesn't help.

Anyway, carry on...

 

theres no definition of something we dont even know exists. given that, how can anyone set the parameters. it can be anything and everything. or nothing.