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ScottyB28 · Sep 5, 2004

ccgw said:

I think to be fair, JR was up against a tired OSU defence with better protection and slower pursuit by the defence; he had the luxury of more time to look for receivers. He is still green, but , no doubt he will be the future of the team.

On the other hand, MR was not as well protected at the time the whole offense was not clicking. I think Saban will give him one or two more chances to prove himself. If he still is subpar, then I will concede that he's better as a backup. Do people still remember the game in 2002 when he was voted player of the week? I believe he has the abiliity but has to show consistency. We will wait on Saban's decision.
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You have got to be kidding me!! Stop making excuses for Marcus Randall, he is not the better QB here.

medtiger · Sep 5, 2004

ramah said:

South Carolina---------------> Win
Auburn----------------------->Loss
Kentucky--------------------->Win
Alabama---------------------->Loss
Ole Miss----------------------->LSU Win, SEC Player of the Week
Arkansas-------------------------------->Blame him for the loss :lol:
Texas----------------------------------->Blame him for the loss :lol:
OSU--------------------------->LSU WIN

He's to be blamed for 2 losses in my book ... AU & ALA ... and should be credited with the Ole Miss win ... SEC Player of the week

LSU is 4-4 with him in the game in a major role after last night
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I will agree that LSU's DBs blew the Arkansas game. But how can he be blamed for "AU & ALA" but not Texas? Texas had not even moved the ball until Cory Redding slapped the ball out of Randall's hand and Lee Jackson returned it for a UT touchdown. That was the momentum change for the entire game. I am not a Randall basher by any means, but I want Nick Saban to put the player on the field who puts LSU in the best position to win. I also would not give Randall the win against OSU, but since we are comparing his starting record, it now stands at 3-4.

ramah · Sep 5, 2004

Defensive breakdowns in some of those games

Sourdoughman said:

I agree with you most of the time but Randall did not have a major role last nite.
If JR didn't come in the game last nite it was a loss so you could add that
on his record.

I notice you list the Kentucky game.
Does anyone remember how bad our offense was in this game?
If it wasn't for a miracle bomb that was a loss also.

Bottomline....
Look at Matts record with that team then look at Randalls.
We where rolling in the Florida game when Matt got hurt.

Matt came in when Davey got hurt and was productive and help win the SECCG for us.

Randall came in when Matt got hurt and has been up and down at best and
has shown no improvement overall.
The Auburn game was horrible after that Florida game!

He was outplayed by a freshman last nite, end of story!
Do you disagree with this???
Or
Do you think Randall played as well as Russell, if so what game where you
watching??
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Don't blame any of 2002 on the Damien James crap and the Dee ... and I saw the whole game last night ... especially the plays called in the first half by Mr. Fisher ... confused???? ... you wanna smack down on me, bitch ... You phukkin know better ... must be the alcohol in the sour dough.

Either way ... you're set in your mind ... we just disagree ... leave it at that

Have a wonderful evening there, Mr. Randall basher

Sourdoughman · Sep 5, 2004

I know there was defensive breakdowns in some of those games but it couldn't have
anything with the offense not being able to sustain drives.

My Point: Our win against Florida in Florida with Matt vs the loss vs Auburn.

We didn't have that many breakdowns in the Florida game did we?
Its because we could move the ball.

Don't call me bitch, I don't talk like that I don't appreciate.

Have a Good Day

Jwho77 · Sep 5, 2004

Ramah,

You are clearly a big Tiger fan like the rest of us. But, who the hell cares what happened in 2002? The point is, this is 2004, and Randall is no better now than he was then when it comes to making it happen. He is inaccurate and cannot handle the blitz.

Randall is a good guy and a team player. MR tried his best, but he is not good enough to be a championship QB. Russell is the starter.

JSracing · Sep 5, 2004

Richdog said:

What if a QB throws 10 passes, all of them hit the WR in the hands and the WR drops all 10 passes. The QB's stats are 0 completions, 10 attempts.
Does this QB suck?
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If he is throwing the ball too hard it can be. I saw them both practice JR is no better in accuracy than MR. he does look to be a better athlete overall.

Look type whatever you want, I've followed FB and LSU FB since Cholly Mac days and I've played a few downs. I'm by no means an expert, but the numbers do count for something.
Give it a rest, you're just typing to hear your keyboard rattle.

ramah · Sep 5, 2004

Jwho77 said:

MR tried his best, but he is not good enough to be a championship QB. Russell is the starter.
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Neither was Matt Mauck ... but the defense carried him.

We'll see if you're right ... it's semantics anyway as both will play next week unless the coaches make a change ... the better performer deserves to play the lion's share of time against Auburn ...

and, LSU can win with great dee and any of the three QBs starting ... IMO

G-night, guys

sorry I called you a bitch Sourdoughman ... I just don't take sarcasm or **** too well when I'm in a bad mood ... :wink:

Sourdoughman · Sep 5, 2004

ramah said:

Neither was Matt Mauck ... but the defense carried him.

We'll see if you're right ... it's semantics anyway as both will play next week unless the coaches make a change ... the better performer deserves to play the lion's share of time against Auburn ...

and, LSU can win with great dee and any of the three QBs starting ... IMO

G-night, guys

sorry I called you a bitch Sourdoughman ... I just don't take sarcasm or **** too well when I'm in a bad mood ... :wink:
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No problem, we are on the same team after all. :lol: :thumb:

JSracing · Sep 5, 2004

Jwho77 said:

Ramah,

You are clearly a big Tiger fan like the rest of us. But, who the hell cares what happened in 2002? The point is, this is 2004, and Randall is no better now than he was then when it comes to making it happen. He is inaccurate and cannot handle the blitz.

Randall is a good guy and a team player. MR tried his best, but he is not good enough to be a championship QB. Russell is the starter.
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that's fine...... I'll be the first one to agree with you if he produces, just one question?
have you called coach Saban to let him know who you've decided will be our starter?

gumborue · Sep 5, 2004

ccgw said:

I think to be fair, JR was up against a tired OSU defence with better protection and slower pursuit by the defence; he had the luxury of more time to look for receivers. He is still green, but , no doubt he will be the future of the team.

On the other hand, MR was not as well protected at the time the whole offense was not clicking. I think Saban will give him one or two more chances to prove himself. If he still is subpar, then I will concede that he's better as a backup. Do people still remember the game in 2002 when he was voted player of the week? I believe he has the abiliity but has to show consistency. We will wait on Saban's decision.
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The best post in this thread. I agree with everything in this post.