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mean machine · Oct 22, 2009

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Yes, but the argument made was for the QB/Coach pairings. Warner would still be a bagboy in the midwest were it not for Martz, who didn't even know what he had until Trent Green got hurt. The years of Arena Football paid off in Martz's quick strike offense. Elway was a good QB without Shanahan; Great with him. Definitely a difference maker for the two. I probably could have added Favre and Holgren, too. Favre is good without Holmgren, but there was a definite dropoff without him.

Also, I couldn't find a picture of Fouts and Coryell, but I felt they were worthy of mention.

I don't really know why the Colts even have an OC. They should just fire Tom Moore and give Peyton that money, too.
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I disagree about Elway. I think he was a great (carry the team on your shoulders) QB before Shanahan arrived. After that, he was more of a strong armed game manager. The running game won those Super Bowls.

I think Brees/Payton is closest to Montana/Walsh. Too bad we didn't have these guys earlier in their careers.

islstl · Oct 22, 2009

Yes, I believe Fouts/Coryell should be mentioned in this category.

MLUTiger · Oct 23, 2009

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Which leads me to a question: if Sean Payton calls the Saints plays, its logical to assume he's designing said plays and determining which plays will be implemented for any given game. So what does our offensive coordinator do?
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Gets Sean's coffee, laminates the play sheet, ties Sean's shoes, etc.

mean machine said: ↑

I disagree about Elway. I think he was a great (carry the team on your shoulders) QB before Shanahan arrived. After that, he was more of a strong armed game manager. The running game won those Super Bowls.

I think Brees/Payton is closest to Montana/Walsh. Too bad we didn't have these guys earlier in their careers.
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I'm not talking about Shanahan the Head Coach in the 90's; I'm talking about Shanahan the Offensive Coordinator of the Bronos in the 80's. You could probably make the argument for Shanahan and Steve Young as well. Steve Young was always good in San Francisco, but he played from another world when Shanahan was the OC/QB Coach. That team held the most points scored in a season record until the Pats recently beat with by a few points.