This day in history...

Discussion in 'New Roundtable' started by shane0911, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    37,583
    Likes Received:
    23,826
    Singer for one of my favorite bands wrote a great song about Jackie, played it today from the mountains in Idaho. Looked for it on the YouTube but not up yet
     
  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    26,164
    Likes Received:
    16,743
    On April 16, 2007 at about 7:15am, Seung-Hui Cho, a 23-year old senior at Virginia Tech, shoots a female freshman and a resident assistant in a campus dorm and flees the scene. Police quickly arrive and begin what they think is a domestic violence investigation. They are unaware Cho is still roaming the campus with 2 guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo. At about 9:40, Cho enters a class building, chains the doors shut and begins a room-by-room massacre of the occupants. Within 10 minutes, 32 people - 27 students and 5 faculty members - are dead, and Cho completes the massacre by killing himself. Two days later, NBC News receives a package containing a video of Cho ranting about wealthy "brats." Authorities would later conclude Cho had a history of mental health issues, and had no specific targets in mind the morning of April 16.

    On April 16, 1947, the freighter Grandcamp explodes at a pier in Texas City, Texas, while being loaded with ammonium nitrate. The explosion was likely caused by a longshoreman smoking near the highly volatile chemical. The blast levels a 500-home residential development near the water and causes a secondary explosion at a nearby chemical storage facility. 581 are killed, about 3500 injured.

    On this day in 73 CE (today's date is an estimate due to changes in the calendar), Roman forces breach the wall of Masada following months of siege. Masada is a hilltop fortress south of Jerusalem. The Romans enter the fortress to find all of its nearly 1,000 inhabitants have committed suicide, the men killing women and children before taking their own lives. Seven women and children survive. Masada is now a national park, and was once considered a hallowed place in Israel's history, though in recent years the Jewish community has grown uncomfortable with the thought of glorifying mass suicide.
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2020
  3. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    47,986
    Likes Received:
    22,994
    There.is a huge ship's anchor in the middle of a boulevard in Texas City. It's at least a mile from the water. Was blown there by the explosion.
     
    GiantDuckFan and shane0911 like this.
  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    37,583
    Likes Received:
    23,826
    Something is off here. If it was truly ammonium nitrate that stuff isn't volatile at all and I can assure you a cigarette would NOT have caused it to explode.

    Ammonium nitrate is nothing more than chicken shit and diesel. Basically napalm. To get it to explode requires pressure AND an ignition device like a blasting cap. We used to do this in training and even with a C4 kicker it was a pain in the ass to get it to work right.

    No way I'm buying this!
     
  5. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    47,986
    Likes Received:
    22,994
    Didn't Timothy McVeigh use ammonium nitrate to blow up the building in OKC?
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    37,583
    Likes Received:
    23,826
    Correct, he also had detonators not just a cigarette. Ammonium nitrate makes one hell of a bomb, it's slow and pushes vs cuts. If you know you understand why he used it. It is an extremely stable explosive.
     
  7. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    26,164
    Likes Received:
    16,743
    On April 17, 1970, Apollo 13 splashes down safely in the Pacific. What should have been the third moon landing of Project Apollo became a mission of survival on April 13, when an explosion crippled the spacecraft and depleted a substantial part of the crew's oxygen supply. Four days of emergency procedures, many invented on the fly, would follow before astronauts James A. Lovell, John L. Swigert and Fred W. Haise successfully brought the spacecraft down. (Below: photo taken seconds after the service module was jettisoned prior to re-entry shows the damage caused by the April 13 explosion)
    [​IMG]

    On April 17, 1790, American statesman, printer, scientist and writer Benjamin Franklin dies in Philadelphia at age 84.

    On April 17, 1961, about 1,200 armed Cuban refugees - financed and trained by the CIA - land in Cuba at the Bay of Pigs. Their mission is to topple Fidel Castro's communist government. The plot was originally given the go-ahead more than a year earlier by President Eisenhower. He has since been succeeded by Kennedy, who proceeds with the plan against the wishes of many military advisors. It was hoped Cuban citizens would rally to support the invaders, but Castro's forces respond quickly to the landing, killing about 100 of the invaders and capturing the rest. Castro would then use the attack to convince the Soviet Union to lend additional aid to the island nation, including the installation of missile sites that will nearly bring the superpowers to nuclear blows the following year.

    On April 17, 2002, ABC airs the 10,000th episode of the daytime drama General Hospital, the network’s longest-running soap opera and the longest-running program ever produced in Hollywood. Set in the fictional town of Port Charles, NY, General Hospital premiered on April 1, 1963 and focused on the lives and loves of the staff working in the town’s General Hospital. A 2001 episode featuring the marriage of long-time characters Luke and Laura Spencer remains the most watched soap opera episode in TV history. Among the more famous performers to appear on General Hospital over the years are Demi Moore, who got her start on the show, John Stamos, and Rick Springfield, who became a pop star due to his soap-opera fame. Elizabeth Taylor and Mark Hamill are among the program's numerous guest stars. General Hospital remains in production to this day - today's episode being number 14,567. (Below: Demi Moore's 1982 series debut scene)
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2020
    GiantDuckFan likes this.
  8. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    26,164
    Likes Received:
    16,743
    I was going for brevity. The cigarette caused a fire; the fire set off the explosion.
     
  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    37,583
    Likes Received:
    23,826
    I still don't think you understand. You have me interested now so I am going to have to do a deep dive into this because fire alone won't do it.
     
  10. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    26,164
    Likes Received:
    16,743
    My source was history.com. So let's move on to a second source. From brittanica.com: "About 8:00 am crew members noticed smoke in the cargo area, where 2,300 tons of the fertilizer had already been stowed. In order to keep the cargo intact, the crew decided not to use water to extinguish the fire; they instead tried, unsuccessfully, to snuff out the flames. Shortly after 9:00 am the temperature inside the cargo area had risen enough to spark a massive explosion that was heard as far as 150 miles (240 km) away." So, no mention of what caused the fire, but clearly saying the fire triggered the explosion.
     
    shane0911 likes this.

Share This Page