This is why the BCS is a joke

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  1. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    I find it amazing that there is so much anti-computer talk when before today that's what almost everyone on this forum wished played a bigger part.
     
  2. lsufan_in_ohio

    lsufan_in_ohio East Ascension High '76

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    okay I see you point......However there are 6&7 SEC teams in the top 25 (AP and Coaches).....two of them in the top 10......
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Me too. I thought the "BCS Poll" was THE only one that mattered........that's what I've heard the most from LSU fans. Now we're talking AP, etc. :confused:
     
  4. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    If any other conference wants to even get into the discussion of competing with the SEC, stop losing to 1-AA teams, and other non-BCS schools. Every OOC loss by an SEC school has come against a team that is/was ranked. Can't say that about any other conference to this point. Are you honestly going to tell me that losses to Missouri, So. Florida, FSU, Cal, and WVA in ay way compares to Appy St., North Dakota St., Northern Iowa, Kent St., Utah?
     
  5. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    I personally prefer the computers to the human polls, because they take out the element of bias. In no way do I think they are perfect, but I think they're better than the humans.
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Take a deep breath people. The Tigers are still 3rd in the BCS poll. The Gayhawks are 8th. Not sure how wires got crossed for someone to post that we had dropped to 5 and KU up to the 2 slot. The previous posters had it right. LSU just needs to win and worry about LSU, the rest will take care of itself.
     
  7. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    Not at all. The SEC is a very good league. You can have to most competitive league in the country and still not have the two best teams in the nation. The thought process seems to be that because you run a little deeper that, therefore, your champion should always be in the big game.
    The BCS isn't set up to accomplish that piece of the equation every year.

    Perhaps it should be different, but it's not.
     
  8. lsudolemite

    lsudolemite CodeJockey Extraordinaire

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    But how did UF get in the title game in the first place? OSU and Michigan went #1-#2 during the 3-week span that neither team played and while UF had to beat Arky in the SEC championship. UF got the job done, but never looked particularly impressive and needed unforced turnovers. Yet miraculously the BCS leaped them over Michigan in the final week even though the computers had them dead even. The point is it wasn't all about UF earning their spot as one of the two best teams in the land, it had a lot to do with the fact that the pollsters didn't prefer to see a OSU/Michigan rematch.

    As it is, the SEC will almost certainly have 7-8 teams going to bowls, and possibly as many as 10-11. I'd call that dominance. Whether intentional or not, the BCS tends to reward a single dominant team in a conference full of pretenders and 1-2 contenders. See USC from 2003-2006, or Texas in 2005. The SEC talent pool ensures something close to parity among the top 6-7 teams year in and year out, almost guaranteeing a loss from the SEC champion. Absent a playoff there's simply no way a computer/poll system can pick the 2 best teams out of 119 in a year like this.
     
  9. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    Ok then, it seems we're arguing two different things right now. If we're discussing conference dominance (which I am) I think the SEC may have distanced them selves this year. s OSU the best team in the country this year? I don't know. That win last night was a good one, but I don't know how they would handle a gauntlet of ranked teams. Maybe they would go un-beaten, maybe they would lose 3 or 4 games. The problem is that the system seems to reward teams playing in conferences that aren't very deep. That's not saying that OSU isn't one of the 2 best teams out there, it's just saying that we put that ranking on them because other teams have had a much tougher road to this point.
     
  10. SonnyLoco

    SonnyLoco Founding Member

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    The polls are as follows:

    1. Ohio State
    2. BC
    3. LSU
    4. Arizona State
    5. Oregon

    I don't know where you got the poll you posted. But the we are still #3 on the BCS.
     

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