Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Cajun Sensation, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

    The President met again with the Dalai Lama today. This always pisses China off, but who cares.

    Anyways, I was surprised to read this:
    the President reiterated the U.S. position that Tibet is part of the People’s Republic of China and that the United States does not support Tibet independence.

    I always thought that the U.S.'s position was pro-Tibetan. Is this just the US's position since the Obama Administration or has the U.S.'s position always been that way?
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2014
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    The US position on Tibet has gone back and forth over the last 100 years, as China has gone from Imperial China to Nationalist China to Red Communist China to developing China. Generally when China is an ally we favor Chinese control of Tibet and when China is an enemy we prefer Tibetan independence. Modern China is a rival, but a main trading partner and the situation has been soft-pedaled ever since Nixon.


    Historically, the U.S. has subordinated its policy on Tibet to what it considered a larger strategic interest. We have territorial disputes with China over North Korea, Taiwan, and the South China Sea and Tibet comes in lower on the priority list. One reason is that China feels very strongly that Tibet has been a part of China for centuries and they will give Tibet back to the Dali Lama when the United States gives South Dakota back to the Sioux.

    The Chinese called upon Obama not to meet with the Dalai Lama, but Obama ignored them. The Dalai Lama is a realist and he is seeking more autonomy for Tibet, not independence. Obama also reiterated the US position that Tibet is part of China and that the United States does not advocate Tibet independence.

    Obama reiterated his "strong support for the preservation of Tibet's unique religious, cultural, and linguistic traditions and the protection of human rights for Tibetans in the People's Republic of China".

    The Dalai Lama stated that he is "not seeking independence for Tibet" and hopes that dialogue between his representatives and the Chinese government will resume.

    Obama offers 'strong support' for Tibet rights in Dalai talks
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  3. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

    What do you think happened to the Panchen Lama? I think China killed him.
  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Senior Member

    Time to give Red another heart attack...I think President Obama has handled this one correctly. He has adjusted his stance from early when he did not meet the Dalai Lama and supports what the DL is asking for.

    In general his Asian policy has been much stronger and better handled than his European , ME and South American policies. He recognizes as the English did for so long in Europe, we need to support the weaker powers in the region to prevent Chinese hegemony. He deserves acknowledgement and praise for his good points as he does criticism for his weaknesses.
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  5. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

    Just read where China has "summons US diplomat over Dalai Lama meeting"

    Yep. They're pissed.
  6. mctiger

    mctiger Kenny HIlliard, Beast Staff Member

    You know what the Lama said? "Goonga galoonga."

    LSUMASTERMIND Veteran Member

    so you got that going for you
  8. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

    I did not wake up today thinking I was going to see goongo galoonga written anywhere. Off to youtube to catch a 4 minute clip now.
  9. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

    I don't get it. What am I missing?
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    More likely he is in a gulag somewhere. Protective custody, you know.

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