UGA still ranked above LSU ...?

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  1. Chip82

    Chip82 Founding Member

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    The rankings at this point in the season just serve to act as a guide.

    Any SEC team that doesn't make it to the SECCG will not have much of a shot at a BCS bid in the first place.

    The next few weeks will determine where both UGA and LSU belong. LSU is in a good position to win out. With all of the injuries, UGA will be lucky to survive Florida and Auburn.
     
  2. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Did you ever consider that the original programming for each separate BCS computer might be weighted in favor of the specific criteria that the programmer considers relevant?
     
  3. TigerWins

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    Yes, but how does that benefit one team more than the other 116 teams?

    Secondly, the BCS kicks out the highest computer poll ranking, then average the other 6 polls.
     
  4. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Well, if two of the programmers happen to be Notre Dame fans.....
     
  5. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    LOL ... you are really stretching!

    I'll take an objective computer poll (even if the objectives are flawed) over the AP and Coaches poll anyday!
     
  6. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    What is an "objective computer poll?" Computers are programmed by humans and believe it or not not all of them are LSU fans.
     
  7. TigerWins

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    An "objective computer poll" is one where the criteria is set in stone, and approved by the BCS, BEFORE the season starts.

    All 7 computer polls used in the BCS calculation are reviewed and approved by the BCS. If you recall, the BCS told these polls several years ago to exclude margin of victory as one of its critieria, or their poll would not be used.

    I really don't understand your point ... are you suggesting that these programmers change the formula week to week to benefit a particular team? Can you give one specific example of what a programmer can do that would benefit one team over another? And how would these changes go unnoticed by the BCS people?
     
  8. MobileBengal

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    It is unlikely, but remember Florida went to the Orange Bowl in 2001 when Tennessee beat them to go to the SECCG.
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    If the criteria is set in stone then why is there such a wide variation between the different computer rankings. While the BCS threw out the margin of victory factor in the computer rankings the fact is that the margin of victory or loss still affects the human voters in the AP and the coaches polls. Please explain the logic of Northern Illinois being ranked 10th in the initial BCS rankings while LSU was 15th and Georgia, who lost to LSU was ranked 4th. Lets say that Oklahoma wins out and wins the Big 12 CG to stay undefeated. Miami loses to V Tech and V Tech dosen't lose another game. Florida State and Ohio State don't lose another game. USC dosen't lose another game. LSU wins out and wins the SEC CG. That leaves 6 one loss teams for the BCS to choose to face OU in the Sugar Bowl. The 5 teams left out have a very legitimate claim that they have been screwed. Not to mention still undefeated TCU who would at least earn a slot in the playoffs if there was a playoff. I didn't say that the programmers would change their system during the season but if one of the ranking systems felt like a win over a Big 12 team was more important than a win over an SEC or a Big 10 or ACC team that would be reflected in the way the initial program was set up to start the season. The computer program would then follow that logic throughout the season and assign points based upon the initial critera. If all 117 NCAA D1 teams were assigned a Zero rating before the season started and all ratings were assigned from week to week based upon actual game results incorporating even the D1AA wins based on the same weighted system to start the D1AA season then every one of the BCS computer ranking systems would come up with exactly the same results at the end of the regular season. While that would be a fair adjustment to the computer rankings it would still throw it back to the polls that are voted on by human sportwriters and coaches with their inate biases. As it is now a team might be ranked 15th by one computer system and 3rd by another. LSU beat Georgia. Georgia beat Tennessee. LSU lost to Florida but Georgia dosen't play Florida until this weekend. LSU beat Auburn who beat Tennessee who beat Florida. How does all this justify ranking a one loss Georgia team whose one loss came at the hands of LSU over a one loss LSU team coming off a very impressive win over Auburn following a dominating win over South Carolina while Georgia comes into this week following two subpar perfomances against Vanderbilt and UAB.
     
  10. SouthLink02

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    Huh? I was saying that we won the game and not lost as some act as if we got over-powered and got killed. It hadn't a thing to do with LSU.

    Yet again, another try and mocking me and Georgia when it had nothing to do with them. Gets old quick man.

    I was at that game though...
     

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