Ukraine, Russia, United States, ISS

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LaSalleAve, May 14, 2014.

  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

  3. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

    I knew it was a big mistake to scrap the space shuttle program before developing a replacement
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  4. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

    Putin is a bad ass trying to establish the ole mother Russia. But he is crazy as fuck.
  5. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

    They're not going to kick us off. They're just not going to give us a ride. SpaceX should be up and running by then.

    What a weak threat. "If you don't be nice to us, we're going to stop giving you rides in six years."
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Both sides are posturing. But Russia cannot win an economic war against the West.
  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

    Again I ask why does there even have to be a war????????
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Wars are inevitable, amigo.

    "There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others." -- Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

    "War is regarded as nothing but the continuation of state policy with other means." -- Carl von Clausewitz, On War

    "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." --
    Sun Tzu, The Art of War
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

    That's a stupid answer. It's the Ukraine. To go to any war over that country is more absurd than the invasion of Iraq.
  10. Winston1

    Winston1 Senior Member

    Like going to war for Poland in 1939? No the analogy isn't exact 123. Russia is no Germany...however sometimes overall geopolitical politics outweigh the specific value of a country. Really it may be closer to the Ruhr or Czechoslovakia before Poland. There is no doubt that stopping Germany from holding the Ruhr would have toppled Hitler and from the writing of German general staff the same would have happened had Chamberlain not bowed in Munich.
    No one is advocating a shooting war here but it may be that stouter defense of Ukraine and sanctions on Russia as are being threatened will reduce the likelihood of further and worse trouble down the line.
    At some point though we may have to take the fight to Russia be it in western Ukraine, the Baltics or Poland again. If that happens we should condemn those not strong enough to stop Russia when the cost was lighter.

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