Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUpride123, Dec 3, 2012.
And it's 73% of the jobs created in last 5 months were govt jobs. My bad.
Still a lie, you know we can look shit up nowadays.
just an FYI
Well look it up then.
73% of New Jobs Created in Last 5 Months Are in Government
(CNSNews.com) - Seventy-three percent of the new civilian jobs created in the United States over the last five months are in government, according to official data ...
Here are the November job numbers broken down by sector. I can go back and provide the same chart for every month since Obama has been in office if I need to. Government jobs have gone down since Obama has been in office.
American drive can never be replicated through government interacton. Never will be. Socialism or collectivism is an abject failure across all means.
i dont think anyone said that it was the means to the end, but having a net for the poorest among us is not socialism.
A net to help those in need is a good and proper thing. As it is constructed today in the US is not good. As it is now established there are too many requirements that are disincentives for people to do things that prevent them from getting to a better life. For example the fact that having a man in the house reduces the amountof money a family can get. Fatherless homes, the result of such rules, is one of the most destructive states to the future of young men. This is one of many. See the attached article by Nick Kristoff at NY Times liberal columnist that says it better than I. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/o...m-a-childs-illiteracy.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
No one says living on welfare is a good life but sometimes the security or other factors make it safer to stay than to get off. That is why we have generations of families who know nothing but welfare. Spending more money early in life to get people off welfare, educated and eligible to work and live well will save in the long run the expense of lifetime support either in the welfare dole or prison. One of the best ways to improve the economy, safety in the streets, and the whole sense of our lives is to raise up the lowest among us.
We need to make changes that incentivise successful behavior and help people be better situated to live off of welfare. I believe there should be some mandate for education and work training and drug testing as an incentive for more than a bare minimum or something like it. Until we do we will have an underclass that costs our society in money, lives and most of all potential.
Where have you been, Winston? The Clinton-era welfare reforms of the 1990's has done all that you ask. It's difficult to get welfare at all unless you are a parent of dependent children. There is now a three-year limit on benefits and you have to get training or seek jobs during the three-year period.
Welfare is a bare subsistence living, which is motivation enough for most to get out of the system and into some real money.
Did you read the Nick Kristoff piece or do you have no reading comprehension?
The 90's reforms did not cover all welfare as there are uncountable avenues to support. I guess having your children declared handicapped and keeping them from school doesn't count as getting welfare because there is no time limit. Read it Red and come back with the come back when you have something to add.
BTW the reforms did NOTHING to provide incentives to success. I would have been against them then but have decided that to invest in early support and lets say life style training is more efficient and pays off many fold in the long run. Sort of teach a man to fish.....
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