Were election results a referendum on Obama's policies?

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Do Va and NJ results indicate a statement about Obama's policies?

  1. Yes

    12 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Dems say No. GOP says yes. What say you?
     
  2. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I heard this morning that Rasmussen did a poll because it has been one year since the presidential election and found that only 45% of respondents were at least somewhat likely to vote for Obama again if the election were today. I can't imagine that poll is totally accurate but it is interesting. It's a heck of a fall, I can tell you that.

    Found a link.....

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ma_49_against_if_election_were_held_right_now
     
  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Freshman

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    I am not a D or an R, and I say no for now because of insufficient data. Two state elections are not enough to convince me that the tide has turned from special interest party to different special interest party.

    If there is a majpr turnover in the house after the mid terms I will change my tune.
     
  4. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I'm with you, but I'll go further in a way.

    Overall, this means nothing about the President's policies. But it does reflect a few things.

    One is that his popularity does not automatically translate to voter turnout for other candidates - even reasonable candidates.

    Another is that the previous Virginia flip/flop was more about anti-Bush sentiment than pro-Obama enthusiasm.

    Another is that Liberal Republicans don't float. Dumbest idea ever. The GOP should go medieval on that New York group. What a sham that was.

    Billionaires don't win just because they're billionaires. But if they're also reasonable candidates/incumbents, they are really, really, really hard to beat - even in uberLiberal NYC.

    And the last I'll mention is that every election, to some degree or another, will be a little bit of a backlash against the current power structure.

    This is a big deal for Obama and the Dems because it brings the reality of American politics back to the forefront. The ideological divisions are deep, entrenched, and dangerous. Obama and his change aint all that. The system still is what it always has been. But we're not seeing some kind of repudiation of the administration. That will take a Democrat implosion in 2010.
     
  5. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    I voted yes but it may not be as much of a referendum against Obama as a rejection of business as usual. Obama promised change, we have not seen that and people have noticed.

    Couple other things...

    Rasmussen Poll is one of the most accurate out there. Its usually right on the money with election forecasting.

    That has hurt Obama no matter what meaning is behind the results of this election. He campaigned very hard for a Governor in a state he won easily last year and failed. There will be some blow back.

    Independents are moving away from democrats about as fast as possible. Its still to be determined what that will mean in a presidential election but come next November, the dems have their hands full.

    The dems can not spin this as positive. Pelosi's comments today were absurd and she sounded like a complete moron trying to paint the bright side. However, the repubs shouldnt be beating their chest too hard. Their victory's were slightly marred by the fact both candidates tried to distance themselves from the national republican party. Something the national party should remember as they formulate new policy and strategy for next years big round of elections.
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I voted yes, people are slowly waking up to who and what Obama is.
    When you factor how fast Obama has dropped in the polls in his first year of office and look at these elections that tells the story.
    People who want to put the country in the position of California will continue to vote for the Democrats.

    I will also make a prediction, I think the Republicans will take back control of Congress in November.
    For several reasons, history and Americans will vote with their pocketbooks.
    As bad as the Republicans were the Democrats are still worse when you look at the out of control spending and irresponsibility that exists in DC today.

    I also think Colorado will wake up before its too late otherwise we will be in California's position.

    People will vote for jobs and their pocket book and I believe enough will think it aint happening under this administration.
    It's the economy stupid, it's not all about Obama's agenda!
    Many STILL don't believe the country is headed in the right direction!
     
  7. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    The elections a few days ago opened a few eyes. Including the Democrats. They may be scoffing publicly, but they're going to learn from this.

    It's going to take more than a failed attempt at Socialized medical care to flip Congress that quickly. I don't follow politics closely enough to know for sure, but I don't even know if it's feasible, much less likely.

    You may be letting your elation get the best of you, SD.
     
  8. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Found this. It's a very steep hill to climb. I'm not sure things are bad enough yet, or independents are worried enough yet. One thing that may prove me wrong is if the Dems accomplish so little by 2010 that their base is disheartened and just doesn't show up. But Rush Limbaugh's ego will give them a target, and I think they'll still turnout to vote against a guy who isn't even running...

    I don't agree Pelosi will retain the gavel, necessarily. But only because I think she's so appalingly bad that she may not win re-election.Here's why I think there's at least a chance that Pelosi, if she continues embarrassing herself and her party, may be voted out.

     
  9. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    You may be right but we are in uncharted waters like never before.
    I believe the Republicans and Bush were unpopular not only because of the war but the careless spending.
    We have now learned as bad as they were the Dems are worse from national defense to reckless spending.

    You also have to factor in the national debt along with the economy.
    If the economy doesn't improve or gets worse by next year Americans will blame Obama and the Dems no matter how they will try and blame Bush
    Its the Economy stupid, if people are hurting enough they will vote for change.

    Keep in mind I never thought this Democrat congress would've been voted back into office considering their poll numbers have been so bad the last 3 years but I think the economy and the national debt will be the main issues.
    I also think most Americans are more centered than where Obama is trying to take us.
    Americans don't want socialism or stand for something passed in spite of them.
    Obama's hope and change isn't what Americans voted for guaranteed!
     
  10. gumborue

    gumborue Painfully Pessimistic

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    its a redickulus poll. its both. certainly all voters cant be stupid enough to base thier vote for Governor on obama.
     

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