ya know, i don't really care about who gets drafted where because really we won't be seeing any of that money so why should i care? but what i understand even less is all the fans of nd – and all of our – fans getting in online pissing contests about it. yes brady quinn isn't that good and we all know it, but what that writer wrote about jamarcus wasn't out of the realm of sanity. jamarcus makes terrible decisions, we all know this. why on earth do you say the writer be biased when he's talking about things that actually happened? now let me finish this by saying i'm not defending the writer. i'd just like everyone to be objective all the time. brady quinn does not have the physical talent of jr - FACT. jr makes terrible decisions a lot of the time - fact. leave it alone and let the nfl decide.
It's helps a little with recruiting to have your QB go first overall. So there is a reason to care if you are a Tiger fan.
I don't much care either as far as the NFL itself is concerned but it is good PR for our school and gives our program credentials. Many recruits consider that in making a decision and the programs who stack 'em in the NFL make sure they hear it. :thumb:
I thought that the guy did a pretty good job of scouting JR. He was very biased, but it sounds like the kid's done his homework for the most part, but just got the answers wrong. Let's be honest here. I've been a JR fan since day one he stepped on campus. Matt who? Perri-what? But the main thing that has aggravated me about JR was, like the writer wrote, his inability to make decisions in crucial situations. With having said that, he possesses so much in other departments that it's almost a non-factor considering how he's improved while at LSU. No one in the media follows JR as much as we all do here. We know the guy and what he's had to go through at LSU. A lot of these homers talking smack about JR just see the numbers and stats and not the entire QB development.
Idk if you were even replying to what I wrote but my main point was this guy liked to bring out certain facts about JR which I conceded as we'll but to me he didn't really analyze his whole college career besides just crunching some statistical numbers which may or may not mean alot. Sure JR had a horrible game against Auburn and not the most briliant Tenn game until he brought them back but the flip side of that is this guy is a freaking gamer! How many comebacks does he have in the fourth quarter over his career? like 5 or 6? To me that's an obvious sign of confidence in your position
That article is very biased. We can tell which one he thinks should be the number one pick. Why can't he just do a comparison by the numbers. Not by his opinion. That is why I hate the media. They are all paid to give their opinions. If I wanted someone else's opinion, I would ask for it.
Hey guys just wanted to come on here and defend my article. The premise is very simple, I took my formula which so far has been good at predicting NFL success, and I applied it to these two guys. I then gave the scouting analysis that supported these conclusions. If I was to give my straight opinion as a scout I would put Quinn and Russell closer together. I would never take Russell number 1, there are just too many questions and anyone who watched him knows this. He has great talent, but I'm not sold he is good enough mentally, although he was much better later in the year. I am also not a big fan of Quinn. Quinn crumbles under pressure, and I'm not sure he can overcome that. However, I trust the numbers and they have been right in the past. Either of these quarterbacks would be a more appropriate risk for the tenth pick than the first.
We have seen Russell play since his highschool days. Yes, Russell did have some mental mistakes, mainly clock management. But what we also know about Russell is his brain is like a sponge, he absorbs everything. If you look at his freshman year, he had a 50% completion rate. His sophomore year, he had a 60% completion rate, and his junior year, his completion rate was 68.5%. So not only does he have all the potential in the world, but he also has the brain to develop his talent and possibly become one of the best ever to play the game under proper conditions (decent team, decent coaches, remaining focused). While Quinn, is just an averagely good college QB who we see coming out of college every year or two. And if you watch him game by game this year, you will realize how much maturity was added to his game. As the season went, he made less mistakes, he managed the clock wisely, he was better at reading the defences, etc.. Thats all I got to say, and I hope JaMarcus proves every doubter wrong next year, whether he plays for the Raiders, the Browns or anyone else.
Dlew...glad to see you stand behind your piece but it is unlikely you will change any minds here, and not just because we are homers. I realize your premise is easy and in a cookie cutter fashion it may have held up in some manners, but it doesn't here. Your so called game analysis cannot possibly extend to any games other than the Auburn game or you would not have made the claims vs Russell that you did. You can call Russell a poor decision maker but his stats and efficiency rating do not support that, and he didn't have the benefit of padding his stats in the 4th quarter the way Brady did either. Doubting his mental capacity? Russell was an honor student, and the scouts that have worked with him describe him as a prodigy both mentally and physically. Simply put, your "analysis" and slams against Russell sound suspiciously like regurgitated knocks from other writers throughout the year, who also did not actually watch him play. Reading game numbers is all fine and well, but rarely tell the whole story. Also, despite your claims of no bias, your article doesn't say that Quinn hung the moon, but you certainly paint him as the more attractive draft and more capable QB. It just isn't the case, and this draft and years to come will show this. Despite my disagreement with you, I am sure everyone here respects your post here in defense of your article. Good luck in your own career as a QB and as a future writer.
